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Does the Uhura twist mean we won't get a good pon farr storyline?

Or, he'll handle it the way Sarek handled pon farr while with a human woman. I don't find it hard to believe that him and T'Pring do not exist (haven't been betroved yet) or his rebellous nature wouldn't make him consider the betroval valid (since he hasn't yet and won't in this timeline try to out-Vulcan full Vulcans to please his dad).

This is a very simple offscreen solution... assuming him and Uhura are sexually active.

"Uhura, I have Pon Farr coming soon."
"What is that?"
"It's a period once every seven years where Vulcans become very fertile and our logic loses hold over our sexuality"
"Bullshit"
"Pulls out a remedial Pon Farr book"
2 mins of reading details
"Ok, I'll talk to Dr. McCoy and get ready"

That's not compelling drama...

Exactly my point! They've ruined the drama pon farr used to have!

Continuing with this storyline would SUCK, because they haven't even set it up for us properly. How the fuck did SPOCK get with Uhura? You can't just whack it in there like that - smacks of Seven/Chakotay lazy writing. No setting of the scene, completely out of the clear blue sky - and absolutely free of dramatic build-up or interest. I mean - it got my laugh of shock, from Kirk's point of view, when I first saw it in the cinema, but upon further though, excuse me, WHAT?

I don't see it lasting either.
 
OTOH, Human women may not be able to handle pon farr very well ;)

fertile ground there, again...
 
If Spock goes into pon farr, and Spock and Uhura are in an existing sexual relationship, then the pon farr story would climax (ahem) with a Quinto-Saldana love scene.

So it'll be a GREAT!!!! pon farr storyline!
 
I don't need to see a pon farr story, either.

I can see it now: Spock has PMS (Pre-Mating Syndrome). He's feeling bloated and cranky--so cranky, in fact, that, after Kirk looks at him the wrong way, he throws Kirk onto the navigation console and starts choking him, yelling, "DON'T GO THERE ... I TOLD YOU NOT TO GO THERE TODAY!"

McCoy brings in a big bag of salty potato chips, dip, a boatload of chocolate, and Haagen-Daz ice cream, and the day is saved.

OK, that was stupid, but so's the revisit to Pon Farr Land.
 
I'll go with whatever they decide to do- just make it work for the story and characters. It's kind of hard to see how they'd do it, though, but who knows. It would have to be a truncated, minimalist Pon Farr...


If Spock goes into pon farr, and Spock and Uhura are in an existing sexual relationship, then the pon farr story would climax (ahem) with a Quinto-Saldana love scene.

So it'll be a GREAT!!!! pon farr storyline!
hehe! that was a fun post to read. So glad you've failed at lurking.;) You're bringing the sizzle today.:devil:
 
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Speaking of... ::Gets out the Reese's Clusters::

Yeah, they should probably avoid the Pon Farr storyline, even though the female audience would probably go nuts over it (you just know the whole concept was for the fangirls). It would be rather distracting from any other plotline in a film. I think it works for a long-running television show, but might be a bit WTF?! for a movie.

Though I do want lots of Spock/Uhura in the next films!

Perhaps they could make some character jokingly chide Spock for it or something in regards to getting a girlfriend. Just a little shout-out in a humorous way.
 
I'll go with whatever they decide to do- just make it work for the story and characters. It's kind of hard to see how they'd do it, though, but who knows. It would have to be a truncated, minimalist Pon Farr...


If Spock goes into pon farr, and Spock and Uhura are in an existing sexual relationship, then the pon farr story would climax (ahem) with a Quinto-Saldana love scene.

So it'll be a GREAT!!!! pon farr storyline!
hehe! that was a fun post to read. So glad you've failed at lurking.;) You're bringing the sizzle today.:devil:

Mmmmm, that would be HOT LIKE BURNING!!! :drool:
But you know, out of spite, I can see them glossing over Pon Farr. Just cause he gets some like whenever, he doesn't get all pent up, stored up, um...stuff in his junk, therefore no pon far.

Omg, am I five?
 
Mmmmm, that would be HOT LIKE BURNING!!! :drool:
But you know, out of spite, I can see them glossing over Pon Farr. Just cause he gets some like whenever, he doesn't get all pent up, stored up, um...stuff in his junk, therefore no pon far.
Speaking of glossing over things, I really hope they have some type of continuity with this relationship in the future. If this was a tv show, I'd say forget it, that's as much as we'll ever see. They never allow couples similar to Spock/Uhura a long story arc. They might use it as a quick get ratings/tongues wagging thing but then you might come back next season and it's just over with little explanation. Or they'll abruptly write one of the characters off the show ( most often the female). And it doesn't matter how good the actor's chemistry may have been. I and others have been on boards before and seen the hate, sharp criticism (or disinterest) these couples can get from a portion of the show's fanbase. Since the show is dependent on advertisers, it has to consistently draw and if the fanbase isn't buying it (or a segment is complaining loudly), fugidaboutit.

The situation with a feature film is a different and there is a much broader audience demo for something like Star Trek. In this case they can't easily get rid of Uhura (not that they want to). She's got 43 years and is canon. And it would seem odd just to drop it without further ado. Or have some sudden, weak, poorly explained, break up. They have to somehow address it ( or rather they should). I'm fine with them having bumps along the road, but I hope they'll put them together at the end of the series or at the very least leave it up to interpretation. I really hope they avoid a doomed/forbidden/tragic/impossible love scenario. I'm cautiously optimistic because I've noticed this pairing has some support, and it IS Star Trek. But * sigh* it's hard to forget what usually happens on tv shows and feel that odds aren't that great. At the moment I can't recall even one show where the couple was allowed to stay together. Maybe a few movies have, I don't know. So I won't be surprised if we get the weak break-up scenario or a very cursory treatment.

I hadn't watched this show, but I heard of a female character on another sci-fi show, BSG- Dualla, I think it was, and I'd heard that she actually had love interests and this was supposed to be a good show for women. So I checked her wiki. Well, I was appalled by what I read.

Since they've bothered to introduce this romance, I do hope they have the cojones
to see it through.


BTW, did you see that pic of Chris Hemsley in the Kirk/Spock who's hotter thread. Talk about inducing Pon Farr. It's a bit hard to stay serious and dignified.:p
 
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The destruction of the Kelvin caused Vulcans to throw off the mantle of Pon Farr and breed like rabbits.

And if that isn't right then the destruction of Vulcan caused them to start breeding like cats.

:)
 
Mmmmm, that would be HOT LIKE BURNING!!! :drool:
But you know, out of spite, I can see them glossing over Pon Farr. Just cause he gets some like whenever, he doesn't get all pent up, stored up, um...stuff in his junk, therefore no pon far.
Speaking of glossing over things, I really hope they have some type of continuity with this relationship in the future. If this was a tv show, I'd say forget it, that's as much as we'll ever see. They never allow couples similar to Spock/Uhura a long story arc. They might use it as a quick get ratings/tongues wagging thing but then you might come back next season and it's just over with little explanation. Or they'll abruptly write one of the characters off the show ( most often the female). And it doesn't matter how good the actor's chemistry may have been. I and others have been on boards before and seen the hate, sharp criticism (or disinterest) these couples can get from a portion of the show's fanbase. Since the show is dependent on advertisers, it has to consistently draw and if the fanbase isn't buying it (or a segment is complaining loudly), fugidaboutit.

The situation with a feature film is a different and there is a much broader audience demo for something like Star Trek. In this case they can't easily get rid of Uhura (not that they want to). She's got 43 years and is canon. And it would seem odd just to drop it without further ado. Or have some sudden, weak, poorly explained, break up. They have to somehow address it ( or rather they should). I'm fine with them having bumps along the road, but I hope they'll put them together at the end of the series or at the very least leave it up to interpretation. I really hope they avoid a doomed/forbidden/tragic/impossible love scenario. I'm cautiously optimistic because I've noticed this pairing has some support, and it IS Star Trek. But * sigh* it's hard to forget what usually happens on tv shows and feel that odds aren't that great. At the moment I can't recall even one show where the couple was allowed to stay together. Maybe a few movies have, I don't know. So I won't be surprised if we get the weak break-up scenario or a very cursory treatment.

I hadn't watched this show, but I heard of a female character on another sci-fi show, BSG- Dualla, I think it was, and I'd heard that she actually had love interests and this was supposed to be a good show for women. So I checked her wiki. Well, I was appalled by what I read.

Since they've bothered to introduce this romance, I do hope they have the cojones
to see it through.


BTW, did you see that pic of Chris Hemsley in the Kirk/Spock who's hotter thread. Talk about inducing Pon Farr. It's a bit hard to stay serious and dignified.:p

I do know a bit about movie marketing and the number one rule is, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." The ingredients in this film have made it a big success across more than one demographic and I doubt very much if they'd mess with one of the things apparently responsible for this. Bumps along the road only mean they are making it into a story, not dispensing with it. That they will not do. As you say, the way movies make money is different than how TV series do it, especially if you're talking about one that was designed accordingly to the antiquated formula of the late sixties.

BTW, the thing with Dualla in BSG was that she was being used to get in the way of another (canonical) relationship, not that people begrudged her a relationship of her own. In fact, she'd had a relationship of her own but he was killed off. But, I'm upset about how a couple of the female characters ended up there, including hers.
 
.....and these are the days of our lives.....

what can ya do? it's a space opera... ;)

Yeah well now it is, that's the problem.....but it wasn't a space opera......it wasn't....:(

That's another reason I loved TOS...it kept us at arm's length with the characters and their "personal" lives...we got little hints here and there but it was about the space adventures....not who is doing who.
 
Speaking of glossing over things, I really hope they have some type of continuity with this relationship in the future. If this was a tv show, I'd say forget it, that's as much as we'll ever see. They never allow couples similar to Spock/Uhura a long story arc.
That is so true, couples nearly never work out. The only trek romance that had a clear begining to end ship was Tom/B'Lanna on VOY. It didn't help any matters that the only working ship that lead to a functional marriage was the one that was captained by a woman. ARG, so mad that nothing in DS9 worked out.

BTW, did you see that pic of Chris Hemsley in the Kirk/Spock who's hotter thread. Talk about inducing Pon Farr. It's a bit hard to stay serious and dignified.:p
Mmmm, I have a one track mind when it comes to the sexy mens.

Yeah well now it is, that's the problem.....but it wasn't a space opera......it wasn't....:(

That's another reason I loved TOS...it kept us at arm's length with the characters and their "personal" lives...we got little hints here and there but it was about the space adventures....not who is doing who.

Oh boy! Here it goes.
Spock sexed on at least three women. T'Pring, Leila, and the cave lady (maybe, that's a little fuzy to me).

It's ironic too. Spock was never soposed to be with Leila, it was suposed to be Sulu's love story episode, but the Polynesian actress never got past the test screening stage (who knows why:shifty:), so the other actress got it, and the male lead went to Nimoy.

In fact as I recall, everyone one got a romantic or sexually explored storyline except for one or two of the bridge mates. Guess who?
 
Speaking of glossing over things, I really hope they have some type of continuity with this relationship in the future. If this was a tv show, I'd say forget it, that's as much as we'll ever see. They never allow couples similar to Spock/Uhura a long story arc.
That is so true, couples nearly never work out. The only trek romance that had a clear begining to end ship was Tom/B'Lanna on VOY. It didn't help any matters that the only working ship that lead to a functional marriage was the one that was captained by a woman. ARG, so mad that nothing in DS9 worked out.

BTW, did you see that pic of Chris Hemsley in the Kirk/Spock who's hotter thread. Talk about inducing Pon Farr. It's a bit hard to stay serious and dignified.:p
Mmmm, I have a one track mind when it comes to the sexy mens.

Yeah well now it is, that's the problem.....but it wasn't a space opera......it wasn't....:(

That's another reason I loved TOS...it kept us at arm's length with the characters and their "personal" lives...we got little hints here and there but it was about the space adventures....not who is doing who.

Oh boy! Here it goes.
Spock sexed on at least three women. T'Pring, Leila, and the cave lady (maybe, that's a little fuzy to me).

It's ironic too. Spock was never soposed to be with Leila, it was suposed to be Sulu's love story episode, but the Polynesian actress never got past the test screening stage (who knows why:shifty:), so the other actress got it, and the male lead went to Nimoy.

In fact as I recall, everyone one got a romantic or sexually explored storyline except for one or two of the bridge mates. Guess who?

Why do you say "Oh boy and here it goes"??"

You're missing my point anyway.....because I'm not speaking speficially about Uhura but all of them...

Like I said romance and love was hinted at but never fully explored (thankfully) in TOS. We know little to nothing about Spock and Leila's relationship...which is great since the show was not about that...it's not about thier love lives...or at least it wasn't...now I'm not so sure.
 
.....and these are the days of our lives.....

what can ya do? it's a space opera... ;)

Yeah well now it is, that's the problem.....but it wasn't a space opera......it wasn't....:(

That's another reason I loved TOS...it kept us at arm's length with the characters and their "personal" lives...we got little hints here and there but it was about the space adventures....not who is doing who.

I think you've forgotten (or never knew) the basic concept of Star Trek as espoused by the creator of the show:

http://www.niatu.net/transfictiontrek/download/gene-roddenberry-st-philosophy.pdf

sure, it wasn't a SOAP opera. but he himself dubbed it a Space Opera. that's because it WAS about the human condition. and guess what? the human condition does not pre-date or preclude "love" or "romance".
 
what can ya do? it's a space opera... ;)

Yeah well now it is, that's the problem.....but it wasn't a space opera......it wasn't....:(

That's another reason I loved TOS...it kept us at arm's length with the characters and their "personal" lives...we got little hints here and there but it was about the space adventures....not who is doing who.

I think you've forgotten (or never knew) the basic concept of Star Trek as espoused by the creator of the show:

http://www.niatu.net/transfictiontrek/download/gene-roddenberry-st-philosophy.pdf

sure, it wasn't a SOAP opera. but he himself dubbed it a Space Opera. that's because it WAS about the human condition. and guess what? the human condition does not pre-date or preclude "love" or "romance".

As you just said yourself...."sure it wasn't a SOAP opera..." ...thank you that's right it wasn't so I conclude that Space Opera and Soap Opera aren't the same thing.

Granted that love/romance is included in the human condition...and that's why TOS touched upon it...but certainly it was never a focus.
 
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