Captain Keogh (Uss Odyssey)

[Docbrown777]

Apparently went to the Will Riker school of starship combat tactics. Fire off a few phaser blasts while letting your ship stay stationary. What exactly is attack pattern delta? Full stop? Only use manuvering thrusters?

Not just that but for the love of God man sit down! The whole time the Odyssey is being attacked he is standing up and looks like he is breaking out some new dance moves the way he is wobbling around.

I found a clip of the attack on youtube

 

[Timo]

Actually, I don't think any Starfleet skipper has fired that frequently, let alone more so, in any battle...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[curson]

I have to say, that was one of the most embarrassing battle ever witnessed on Star Trek.
It was so good to see Deep Space 9 recovering itself on this side during the rest of the series, and giving us some of the most amazing space battles ever shown on TV.

A shame to see such a beautiful Galaxy-class end like this...

 

[Hofner]

There's something that's sorely needed in that clip. Whenever Captain Keogh is doing his fancy footwork we should be hearing "Stayin' Alive" by the Bee Gees.

Robert

 

[Praetor]

Was the Ent-D bridge set already struck by this point? I never understood why they wouldn't have reused it otherwise.

Keogh was an ass, frankly, but probably otherwise competent. The Odyssey was still a victim of bad writing, but I think the dramatic statement was pretty powerful. Imagine if that had been the Enterprise...

Keogh was also played by the guy who played the voice of Man-At-Arms, Skeletor, and numerous others on the old "He-Man" cartoon which still makes me laugh.

 

[Jbarney]

Apparently went to the Will Riker school of starship combat tactics. Fire off a few phaser blasts while letting your ship stay stationary. What exactly is attack pattern delta? Full stop? Only use manuvering thrusters?

Not just that but for the love of God man sit down! The whole time the Odyssey is being attacked he is standing up and looks like he is breaking out some new dance moves the way he is wobbling around.

I found a clip of the attack on youtube

I think the shaking camera and dancing cast members from that scene rival the explosion "Cause and Effect". Sometimes it works, and is believable, but those are two instances where you have to cringe.

 

[Thestral]

I remember thinking the non-luxury-liner look of Odyssey was striking. Keogh always seemed like a moderate jerk-ass, but probably very competent and likely likable enough if you were on his good side or got to know him. Certainly no Larry Styles. Odyssey's destruction was shocking, not just for the Enterprise-visual reference but also because, in a real sense, the good guys lost in this episode. It's the turning point of the series.

 

[Praetor]

"Larry" Styles? That's new to me.

I agree, though, that it was sympathetic. He could have easily been Picard and that could have easily been the Enterprise, and that was the point. (Hell, I would have preferred it were.)

 

[Anwar]

You'd have preferred the entire cast of TNG to be killed off in a Jem'Hadar suicide run? Who are you, Navaros ?

 

[Praetor]

You wound me, sir! Still... if it keeps "Nemesis" from being made...

Nah, I was thinking they (or most of them ) would survive, but it would be a more fitting end for the ship herself. You probably know how I feel about that.

(Honestly, some Dominion War TV-Movies about the TNG crew would have been better than "Generations" through "Nemesis." Except maybe FC, but I could go either way on that. The needs of the many... )

 

[Thestral]

Little did any viewers know what Enterprise's next assignment would be as they sailed off into the sunset of "All Good Things..."

I kid, but there's an alternate universe tale for you...

"Larry" Styles? That's new to me.

It started after I read "Forged in Fire"... not sure why. But can you imagine what would happen if somebody called him Larry?

I agree, though, that it was sympathetic. He could have easily been Picard and that could have easily been the Enterprise, and that was the point. (Hell, I would have preferred it were.)

Heck, now that I think about it... Keogh and his first officer have an eerie resemblance to Picard and Riker that was likely more than coincidence... older man, a bit stuffy but clearly skilled, and a younger, energetic first officer...

 

[Photon]

Apparently went to the Will Riker school of starship combat tactics. Fire off a few phaser blasts while letting your ship stay stationary. What exactly is attack pattern delta? Full stop? Only use manuvering thrusters?

Not just that but for the love of God man sit down! The whole time the Odyssey is being attacked he is standing up and looks like he is breaking out some new dance moves the way he is wobbling around.

I found a clip of the attack on youtube

Can you imagine the ass whipping if one of these puppies had fired on the Odyssey?
http://img393.imageshack.us/i/screenshot3wu7.jpg/

 

[Anthony Sabre]

Can you imagine the ass whipping if one of these puppies had fired on the Odyssey?
http://img393.imageshack.us/i/screenshot3wu7.jpg/

That would have been a short battle. Probably would have forced them to launch the Sovereign class earlier.

 

[Anwar]

I wonder if there was a thematic reason for calling the ship "Odyssey". I mean, the end of S2 is "The death of the Odyssey" and the show itself became considerably more war-oriented and darker from that point on. Less an Odyssey of adventuring in space and more grimmer war stuff. The Odyssey the Federation had been undergoing at that period in time truly did end then and there.

 

[Praetor]

And, Enterprise and Odyssey are pretty much synonyms.