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Herb Solow's thoughts on new movie

Ovation

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From BBC
Many questions were foremost in my mind. In this 'prequel' would I find a world that could have existed before we created and developed it? Would I meet our real characters before we invented them? Would they grow into the characters I 'hired?'...

The assembling of the new team was interesting and, for the most part set a genuine tone for the characters. Most of the characters rang true.
I really enjoyed finally meeting the young Kirk, the young McCoy, the young Scotty and the young Uhura, though I found the young Chekov a bit more hyper than we envisioned him to be...


I was a little disappointed in this performance. The original actor, George Takei, played the character with more grace and charm infused into his austerity.



I was impressed and taken with the obvious concern to honour our original series.
The rest is interesting as well.
 
The young Mr Spock was certainly commendable. But I missed the depth of Leonard's Spock, and the centuries of knowledge that always lurked in his eyes.

This shows that even Herb Solow can over-inflate and think overly fondly about TOS. Spock ("THE WOMEN!") was smart but didn't have "centuries of knowledge" in TOS. He was young enough to be Amanda's son, so probably mid-30s in age. He could be logical or he could be emotional or even a bit of a jerk. It wasn't until the films, especially TUC, that he settled into the "old, wise Spock" that Nimoy portrays in the film.
 
Mr Solow once lived in Lampeter, Ceredigion
The BBC is going down the local newspaper route of "Interview with person tenuously connected with this region" now? That's worse than The Gloucester Citizen's "Famous Gloucestershire actor Simon Pegg inhaled and exhaled while waiting for a bus today... IN HOLLYWOOD!".

Still, an interesting interview with Herb Solow, and one of the more forthright reviews of the film from old production staff.
 
Solow is a cool guy. I enjoyed reading his Inside Star Trek book. I am glad he liked the movie. It's always interesting that people who worked on the original series (like Solow or Justman) are more receptive and open minded to new stuff (like STXI or TOS-R) than some of the hard core fans.
 
The young Mr Spock was certainly commendable. But I missed the depth of Leonard's Spock, and the centuries of knowledge that always lurked in his eyes.
This shows that even Herb Solow can over-inflate and think overly fondly about TOS. Spock ("THE WOMEN!") was smart but didn't have "centuries of knowledge" in TOS. He was young enough to be Amanda's son, so probably mid-30s in age. He could be logical or he could be emotional or even a bit of a jerk. It wasn't until the films, especially TUC, that he settled into the "old, wise Spock" that Nimoy portrays in the film.
I don't think he meant it literally (and I think one needs to consider all of TOS, not just The Cage). I read it as Nimoy's gaze gave the impression of 'centuries of knowledge' in a way that Solow did not think Quinto pulled off.
 
Solow is a cool guy. I enjoyed reading his Inside Star Trek book. I am glad he liked the movie. It's always interesting that people who worked on the original series (like Solow or Justman) are more receptive and open minded to new stuff (like STXI or TOS-R) than some of the hard core fans.

QFT.

"Inside Star Trek" bookends "The Making Of Star Trek" wonderfully, filling in a lot of the realities of what producing the series was really like and deflating quite a few myths.
 
The young Mr Spock was certainly commendable. But I missed the depth of Leonard's Spock, and the centuries of knowledge that always lurked in his eyes.
This shows that even Herb Solow can over-inflate and think overly fondly about TOS. Spock ("THE WOMEN!") was smart but didn't have "centuries of knowledge" in TOS. He was young enough to be Amanda's son, so probably mid-30s in age. He could be logical or he could be emotional or even a bit of a jerk. It wasn't until the films, especially TUC, that he settled into the "old, wise Spock" that Nimoy portrays in the film.
I don't think he meant it literally (and I think one needs to consider all of TOS, not just The Cage). I read it as Nimoy's gaze gave the impression of 'centuries of knowledge' in a way that Solow did not think Quinto pulled off.

And "centuries of knowledge" behind the eyes is how Leonard Nimoy described to Robin Curtis on how to approach playing Saavik in TSFS.
 
Re: one of the founders of Trek reviews the film

I know Gene didn't do everything on his own and several writers, producers and even actors have their part into it, but this guy sounds a little too much arrogant for me:
I changed Spock
I named characters
I created the idea of the Captain's log
He (Gene) didn't have a saleable idea
I never have a problem giving credits where its due, but this guy just takes credit a little too much for my taste. Even if he really did all these things, the "noble" thing to do is say that it was a collective effort or something.
 
Re: one of the founders of Trek reviews the film

I know Gene didn't do everything on his own and several writers, producers and even actors have their part into it, but this guy sounds a little too much arrogant for me:
I changed Spock
I named characters
I created the idea of the Captain's log
He (Gene) didn't have a saleable idea
I never have a problem giving credits where its due, but this guy just takes credit a little too much for my taste. Even if he really did all these things, the "noble" thing to do is say that it was a collective effort or something.
He probably would have been a bit more "retiring" if Roddenberry hadn't spent decades doing far worse than this in terms of "taking credit".
 
Re: one of the founders of Trek reviews the film

I really liked the review and liked how open-minded he was to the new franchise and group of actors. I don't think he comes off as arrogant. I bet he's just telling it like it is.
 
Re: one of the founders of Trek reviews the film

Meh-this did not add much. The article was short-I would like to hear more comments with more specifics. Solow can be very interesting to listen to.
 
Re: one of the founders of Trek reviews the film

I never have a problem giving credits where its due, but this guy just takes credit a little too much for my taste.

Funny, so did Gene Roddenberry. While he was often fair about artistic contributions he wasn't very good at giving "credit where it was due" as far as creation/writing on the original series or TNG, except capriciously when the spirit so moved him.

To the extent that Solow is entitled to such credit, whether it suits "your taste" is not really a very interesting criterion for evaluation.
 
Re: one of the founders of Trek reviews the film

I know Gene didn't do everything on his own and several writers, producers and even actors have their part into it, but this guy sounds a little too much arrogant for me:
I changed Spock
I named characters
I created the idea of the Captain's log
He (Gene) didn't have a saleable idea
I never have a problem giving credits where its due, but this guy just takes credit a little too much for my taste. Even if he really did all these things, the "noble" thing to do is say that it was a collective effort or something.
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/trek.asp

Yep... not as shady as Gene
 
Re: one of the founders of Trek reviews the film

He probably would have been a bit more "retiring" if Roddenberry hadn't spent decades doing far worse than this in terms of "taking credit".

Funny, so did Gene Roddenberry. While he was often fair about artistic contributions he wasn't very good at giving "credit where it was due" as far as creation/writing on the original series or TNG, except capriciously when the spirit so moved him.
The fact that Gene was even worst is not a reason to be like that and I certainly wasn't comparing with Gene's own attitude anyway but at least the shows always clearly stated Based upon "Star Trek" created by Gene Roddenberry, not Herb Solow; not that I am excusing Gene, but he may had a little bit more justification.
 
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