Courtney Love does the math

[USS Triumphant]

I'll believe it when hard evidence comes out.

The hard evidence is right there in the songs he wrote. Ever really paid attention to the words of "Lithium"? "Rape Me"? "All Apologies"? Dude was dying.

It's an admittedly armchair-diagnosis, but based on the words to "Lithium" I think he may have had a serious mental disorder that caused him to perceive the world strangely - probably scared the hell out of him half the time. I wish I had known then what I know now about those sorts of things, and had cared more than I did at the time.

As to Courtney Love, I think she has, or at least had, talent. "Doll Parts", "Violet", "Malibu", "Celebrity Skin" - say what you want about who may have written them, she (and Hole) performed them well. And her performance in The People vs Larry Flynt was Oscar worthy, in my opinion. And I was surprised and impressed with the essay the OP refers to, as well, when it first came out.

And bear in mind that I say all of this as an overall Love detractor - because all of that doesn't make up for her white trash antics and poor mothering skills.

But she didn't kill Curt. No one had to.

More on topic: I went through a couple of years where I wouldn't pirate a single byte of anything, because I considered it wrong. Then I read this:

"Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this," Heckler told the Summer Forty-Niner. "We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source -- we will block it at your cable company, we will block it at your phone company, we will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC."

...and I realized something. It isn't piracy. It is privateering, with proxy letters of marque issued by a no longer extant government that would still support copyright the way Jefferson set it up in the first place. Because we are at WAR. This jerkwad at Sony declared it.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

More on topic: I went through a couple of years where I wouldn't pirate a single byte of anything, because I considered it wrong. Then I read this:

"Sony is going to take aggressive steps to stop this," Heckler told the Summer Forty-Niner. "We will develop technology that transcends the individual user. We will firewall Napster at source -- we will block it at your cable company, we will block it at your phone company, we will block it at your ISP. We will firewall it at your PC."

...and I realized something. It isn't piracy. It is privateering, with proxy letters of marque issued by a no longer extant government that would still support copyright the way Jefferson set it up in the first place. Because we are at WAR. This jerkwad at Sony declared it.

Except that now, unlike then, downloading's nearly impossible. The guy at Sony BMG got what he wanted, and he didn't have to do anything after all-the ISP's decided to throttle downloading all by themselves. My ISP (Bell Canada) is doing just that-I've not been able to download a single song like I used to for quite a while, forcing me to make MP3's off of YouTube each day. Using Bit Torrent is also hard as well-I can only download stuff from Bit Torrent on weekdays (about 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM). At least I still have a whole bunch of MP3's that I got from downloading at cybercafes. Now I will have to rely on Conversion Wizard/YouTube & iTunes for my music downloads, just like you will.

 

[Thestral]

Whether or not pirating is wrong, (what if it leads to purchase of an album after "testing" the band online; that's what led me to purchase my first album on my own) it's very clear that what the big music corporations are doing is wrong. Or at the very least, they don't deserve to be compensated as much, let alone many times more, than the artists who create these works. If we're going to have a system whereby somebody stands to make huge amounts of money, then logically and ethically it should go to the people who create these works, not empty-headed paper-pushers whose only creative talent is cooking books.

This...

Maybe I should torrent albums and write a check directly to the band instead of buying the CD in stores?

would be a great solution you'd think, if at all feasible.

 

[Level 2 Diagnostic]

Courtney Love can do the math so well that American Express is suing her for $350,000 in unpaid charges: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090528/music_nm/us_love_amex

Here, Courtney, I can do the math for you: Do you actually have $350,000? If the answer is no, then you probably should not buy $350,000 worth of stuff and charge it to your credit card.

 

[Marc]

Courtney Love can do the math so well that American Express is suing her for $350,000 in unpaid charges: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090528/music_nm/us_love_amex

Here, Courtney, I can do the math for you: Do you actually have $350,000? If the answer is no, then you probably should not buy $350,000 worth of stuff and charge it to your credit card.

So she's pretty much like most consumers out there - spending well beyond her means.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

What's she going to do about it? Murder our husbands?

I'll believe it when hard evidence comes out.

 

[Amaris]

This piece is almost nine years old already. It's always just been an excuse for downloaders to deflect guilt based on a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with their actions.

I'm not a downloader and I think this piece makes an excellent point. I doubt the recording industry's tactics have changed at all since then, and I've no doubt they're still raking it in to the detriment of most recording artists.


J.

 

[Ryan]

This piece is almost nine years old already. It's always just been an excuse for downloaders to deflect guilt based on a situation that has absolutely nothing to do with their actions.

I'm not a downloader and I think this piece makes an excellent point. I doubt the recording industry's tactics have changed at all since then, and I've no doubt they're still raking it in to the detriment of most recording artists.

The piece is basically an argument for recording artists to unionize. That record labels are greedy has fuck-all to do with downloading.

 

[Dusty Ayres]

I'm not a downloader and I think this piece makes an excellent point. I doubt the recording industry's tactics have changed at all since then, and I've no doubt they're still raking it in to the detriment of most recording artists.

The piece is basically an argument for recording artists to unionize. That record labels are greedy has fuck-all to do with downloading.[/QUOTE]

Exactly that, and well put!