I think everyone is missing the real question we should be asking:
When can we expect USS Kelvin salt-shakers?
When can we expect USS Kelvin salt-shakers?
When can we expect USS Kelvin novels?
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There's tones of potential for a Kelvin series. They could even do a Sliding Doors-style continuation of what was 'supposed' to happen, tying it up with Final Frontier (and quietly ignoring either Spock Classic's line or the epilogue of Final Frontier).
I wonder what Diane Carey thinks of this George Kirk?
I wonder what Diane Carey thinks of this George Kirk?
i'd rather they ignored Final Frontier entirely in any new novels, just because if you open that door, you also open the door to Best Destiny, which was shit. and i only liked FF when i was a kid and didn't know (much) better.
I would love to see exploration of the begginings of the Kirks' realtionship. I don't know why exactly, but I would love to see how they met and started their relationship.
Have Kurtzman and Orci said anywhere what position Winnona held the Kelvin? I know they said she was a crewmember, but I never saw if they said what she did.
Have Kurtzman and Orci said anywhere what position Winnona held the Kelvin? I know they said she was a crewmember, but I never saw if they said what she did.
I'm with you on that. I enjoyed those books, despite the odd bit of George serving on the Enterprise before his son.
Yeah, but we got used to most of the captains other than that of the Enterprise being such lame-asses in the movies.
Yeah, but we got used to most of the captains other than that of the Enterprise being such lame-asses in the movies.
And either crazy or dead in the original series...
Not really. The majority of the women that Kirk was attracted to were very classy, accomplished women.
Not really. The majority of the women that Kirk was attracted to were very classy, accomplished women.
Uhura, maybe. But that'd be it, at least for *this* Kirk. Unless Gaila was particularly classy or accomplished, which does not appear likely.
If pa Kirk is anything like his son she was probably a stripper.
Not really. The majority of the women that Kirk was attracted to were very classy, accomplished women.
Uhura, maybe. But that'd be it, at least for *this* Kirk. Unless Gaila was particularly classy or accomplished, which does not appear likely.
She was a Starfleet cadet -- and if we accept the deleted scenes, she had a high enough position in the Starfleet Academy computing centers that Kirk needed to take advantage of his relationship with her to trick her into releasing the computer virus he used on the Kobayashi Maru test. I see no reason to assume that she wasn't a classy, accomplished young woman (even if she, like Kirk, had a larger number of sexual partners than is socially acceptable).
^ Yes, but even if you do accept deleted scenes as canon (which I don't, not necessarily), then not only was Gaila weak enough to *let* Kirk use her like that, but Kirk himself stooped to the level of doing it in the first place.
1. Um, it was Star Trek II: the Wrath of Khan that established that Kirk cheated on the Kobayashi Maru test, and it was damn near every episode of TOS that established that Kirk was not above using a woman's feelings for him to manipulate her into accomplishing his ends (though, in Kirk-Prime's defense, he only ever did it in service of his duty, not for personal gain).
2. The film makes it clear that Krik and Gaila had been seeing one-another more than once when Gaila says to him, "I think I love you." So the fact remains that even if they did not have a monogamous relationship, they had a relationship -- there was, from Gaila's point of view, a valid reason to trust Kirk. The fact that Kirk used that trust to plant his computer virus does not make her "weak;" it makes Kirk a manipulative asshat.
3. Even if it made her "weak" -- which it does not -- this still does not change the fact that there's no reason to think that Gaila is not a classy and accomplished young woman.
Besides, Gaila isn't human. It would be prejudiced to condemn an alien (or for that matter a 23rd-century human) for having sexual mores different from those of early 21st-century America.
I'm expecting them now. Here's my $7.99. The Kelvin scenes were blow-away powerful.
I love Robau, George, Winona, the big-eyed med-tech -- and the shuttle pilot was hot, too. They had some good aliens on the bridge and a cool chief engineer. Plus, they are not dead; no.
One nacelle! And the only hatches with vinyl strips that I remember in Trek. If you guys can't do something with all that, I don't know what...
Gaila may not be human, but she *is* an Orion. We all know what Orion women are like. You've seen "Bound", haven't you? Of course she told Kirk she thinks she loves him - that's all part of the plan, for Orion women. Obviously Gaila is not a 'slave girl' in the strictest sense, but she still can't stop being an Orion, what with the pheromones and all.
(Leaving aside the fact that every male on the ship should have been fawning over Gaila, I am curious as to how she was able to room with Uhura, given what "Bound" established about what happens to other women when there are Orion girls about. Maybe Uhura just stocked up on 23rd century Advil?
)Gaila probably takes a pheromone suppressant
