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What do you diehard TOS fans think of the new movie?

Thank you.

I still can't grasp your lack of love for "Journey to Babel," for example, but I can respect it.

I think I usually rate "Journey" as better than average - a "B," say - just not as first rate.
- "Journey" is a little bit of a put-up mystery and a lot of weepy family melodrama (IMAO). Her proclivity for that kind of story shows up again during her time on TNG, in stuff like "Too Short A Season."

Again, I understand that a lot of folks find something really authentic and interesting in the Spock family dilemma particularly as it's dramatized in this episode - and the casting is hard to beat. I just don't agree strongly enough to consider it excellent.

Family melodrama? Isn't that the same thing that you are praising and touting about in the new movie?
 
So I guess this would be a good time for Paramount to get some remastered versions of the first 10 movies out there. Just add shaky cam and lens flares!
 
Well, for me the lens flares and shaky cam were organic. They integrated seamlessly into the movie without my noticing, which is a good thing.

J.
 
Well, for me the lens flares and shaky cam were organic. They integrated seamlessly into the movie without my noticing, which is a good thing.

J.

I flushed something organic down the toilet this morning...

I saw lens flares and thought I was playing a 10 year old PC game. Remember the old Sensurround advertising with Earthquake. Star Trek should come with an endoresement for the Voodoo 2 graphics card.

As for shaky cam, I hate any film which makes me want to vomit. Hey, that's organic too.
 
I flushed something organic down the toilet this morning...

I saw lens flares and thought I was playing a 10 year old PC game. Remember the old Sensurround advertising with Earthquake. Star Trek should come with an endoresement for the Voodoo 2 graphics card.

As for shaky cam, I hate any film which makes me want to vomit. Hey, that's organic too.

I'm going to go watch the movie now for a third time, along with some of my friends, you know, people who didn't really know about Star Trek before but now love it because of the movie.

You have fun in the bathroom.

J.
 
Why would I do that when I can watch a better movie in comparison...

Last Action Hero, Titan AE, Batman Forever, Chronicles of Riddick, Daredevil, Mortal Kombat, Lethal Weapon 4, The Phantom Menace, Lost In Space, all so called 'bad' movies that I find more satisfying than Star Trek
 
I never get the complaints about shaky cam, much less lens flares I mean I know that camera movement makes some people nauseous - a member of my family has the problem, and several of them are also prone to car motion sickness. Since I've never been car sick and camera work of the "Cloverfield" variety doesn't disorient me, much less make me ill, it's just a difficult thing to identify with.
 
I never get the complaints about shaky cam, much less lens flares I mean I know that camera movement makes some people nauseous - a member of my family has the problem, and several of them are also prone to car motion sickness. Since I've never been car sick and camera work of the "Cloverfield" variety doesn't disorient me, much less make me ill, it's just a difficult thing to identify with.

I threw up playing Doom when I was kid. Although I don't get travel sick. Shaky cam better be justified in terms of the narrative, and in small doses. Bourne Identity I loved. Bourne Supremacy I couldn't tolerate. I don't know why. Maybe if the story engages me I can forget the camerawork. I know I had issues with Supremacy that I didn't with the first film. Maybe there just wasn't enough of a story, or engaging enough characters in Star Trek for me to ignore the camerawork.

As for lens flare, there was a time when it was a sign of an incompetent camera operator. Now it's a stylistic choice. :rolleyes:

Whatever, I can't see what's happening on the screen because you're frying my retinas!
 
As for lens flare, there was a time when it was a sign of an incompetent camera operator. Now it's a stylistic choice. :rolleyes:

Don't roll your eyes like that. Just look at TMP (they are used there too - although much more reluctantly ;))

And in 3 and 4, To mask the transition between FX and practical when it comes to Spock's torpedo tube on Genesis.

On Trek 2.0 it's used to mask shitty set design, which is why there is so much of it. There was a plastic curtain on Nero's ship. Like they shot in an abbatoir.

The way that my ticket stub was torn, my half was left with "TAR TREK" on it. Which I feel is appropriate given my opinion of this film and what it has done for the franchise.
 
Hi, TOS fans:
Could you please post what you really feel about the new movie?

Please, only TOS fans post.

Don't get me wrong, everybody. I like all the series and I love all you guys out there, but I am reading all kinds of reactions in other posts from people who really like either TNG, DS9, VOY, or ENT and some are glad the old series was changed in the movie. TOS fans may not feel this way.

Like I said, I love all you guys, but I am really curious to see what dedicated fans of the Original Series think.
Thanks so much everybody. Love ya. :techman:

So, to the true TOS fans only......What did you like or dislike about the new film?

As a true TOS fan, I can honestly say I loved it. I went in with trepidation and realized in a short while that the reboot could work. At the end, I was wanting to reread my favorite TOS novels and rewatch TMP (done) and continue reading the TOS series (in progress).

Unfortunately, too many people want this to fail because it doesn't fit within their concept of what ST should be. They would seem to prefer that ST die than be sullied, as if ST was ever pure to begin with. I've never considered it utopian or pure. Take the original characters (the ones who stole starships on personal errands, committed espionage when ordered to do so, demanded their right to conduct a war in the face of a chance for peace, etc in TOS) and shake their universes (literally) up enough and you could get the ones we see in the movie. If showing people striving for utopia is mandatory for something to be true ST, then TOS fails as much as this movie. I'm not sure if any series actually meets that impossible goal except for TNG, and even then, the characters might go off the straight and narrow when it suited their purposes.
 
And in 3 and 4, To mask the transition between FX and practical when it comes to Spock's torpedo tube on Genesis.

On Trek 2.0 it's used to mask shitty set design, which is why there is so much of it. There was a plastic curtain on Nero's ship. Like they shot in an abbatoir.

:wtf: Err... no...
 
And in 3 and 4, To mask the transition between FX and practical when it comes to Spock's torpedo tube on Genesis.

On Trek 2.0 it's used to mask shitty set design, which is why there is so much of it. There was a plastic curtain on Nero's ship. Like they shot in an abbatoir.

:wtf: Err... no...

Err... yes... I'm sure you're about to watch it again. Pay attention to when Robau is brought aboard the Naruto or whatever, he walks through a plastic curtain. Really. I laughed out loud when I saw that. Cheap!
 
Wrong again.

You have a point. They didn't use nearly enough lens flare in engineering. I could clearly see how shitty that was. :guffaw:

And wrong again.

You appear to attempt to refute every argument with the word 'wrong'. I concede to your superior intellect, Often Wrong Dennis! I'm sure you'll be incontinent with laughter at my expense when Star Trek cleans up at all the awards ceremonies next year. Idiots missed a trick. They should have waited a couple of weeks and opened Cannes with it.
 
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