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Where were the frakking Vulcan ships? (SPOILERS)

Brent

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Forgive me, this has probably already been answered.

Where were the Vulcan ships? The Narada gets there, and they have NO ships around their planet trying to defend it? They rely completely on the Federation now and have abandoned all their ring ships?

I find it odd they had to wait for the Federation to get there and weren't able to defend their own planet with their own ships. They've been in space a lot longer than Earth has, they should have had lots of ships there. It just seemed like they were a pre-warp race from the movie.
 
The Narada probably destroyed their defenses.

Remember, they basically took the shields of one of the most advanced starships in the Federation down to 32% with ONE salvo.
 
Where were the Vulcan ships? The Narada gets there, and they have NO ships around their planet trying to defend it? They rely completely on the Federation now and have abandoned all their ring ships?

Probably. One of the rules of joining the Federation might be that you can't have you own standing military.
 
They likely got nuked once the Narada showed up, which is what prompted the Vulcans to send their distress call.
 
1st of all - Vulcan ships = Federation ships

2nd - Does everything have to be spelled out for you? Perhaps that debris field contained debris from ships stationed at Vulcan?
 
Japan doesnt have a military. Japan has a Self-Defense Force.

Vulcan could have its own defense force.
 
They likely got nuked once the Narada showed up, which is what prompted the Vulcans to send their distress call.

No, what prompted the Vulcans to send their distress call was a 'lightning storm in space'. From the way everyone talks about and reacts to it, it's clear they thought it was a natural phenomena, and not a hostile vessel.

Of course, it doesn't make any sense for that 'lightning storm in space' to be there, but whatever...
 
Vulcan probably didn't have many ships, and most of them would be science ships I'd have thought. As shown in TNG, most Vulcans who got into the military go into Starfleet. Starfleet was tasked with protecting Vulcan, and it didn't matter anyway cause Nero would've messed up any shitty defenses they had if he could take out a task force of Starfleet warships.
 
Earth doesn't have ships. Vulcan doesn't have ships. The Federation has ships. Starfleet has ships. Starfleet ships were dispatched to help Vulcan. They failed.
 
If there were any ships orbiting Vulcan or in close vicinity, they got nuked by the Narada just like the seven sent from Earth. They're all Federation ships anyway.
 
I don't get the "lightning storm in space" bit here. I thought that accompanied the arrival of Nero's ship into the past. Does it conveniently happen whenever his ship shows up...or am I forgetting something?
 
I don't get the "lightning storm in space" bit here. I thought that accompanied the arrival of Nero's ship into the past. Does it conveniently happen whenever his ship shows up...or am I forgetting something?

I think the chatter about the second "lighting storm" was Spock Prime's arrival. It wasn't connected to the Vulcan attack except that Kirk overheard the transmission about it and put two and two together.
 
I don't get the "lightning storm in space" bit here. I thought that accompanied the arrival of Nero's ship into the past. Does it conveniently happen whenever his ship shows up...or am I forgetting something?

I think the chatter about the second "lighting storm" was Spock Prime's arrival. It wasn't connected to the Vulcan attack except that Kirk overheard the transmission about it and put two and two together.

My thought there, too.
 
If you watch the shot where Spock materializes on Vulcan's surface, you can see a ship fly by in the sky.
 
I would guess that any personal craft on the surface would help account for the 10k Vulcans that survived. I'm not too clear on this...was the 10k surviving Vulcans number said by Spock meant to be ALL Vulcans everywhere or just the ones that survived the acutal destruction of the planet?
 
I was wondering that myself. You would think Vulcan would have a few colonies out there, on their own. It did have an aggressive, colonizing period that essentially created the Romulan Empire.
 
I don't get the "lightning storm in space" bit here. I thought that accompanied the arrival of Nero's ship into the past. Does it conveniently happen whenever his ship shows up...or am I forgetting something?

I think the chatter about the second "lighting storm" was Spock Prime's arrival. It wasn't connected to the Vulcan attack except that Kirk overheard the transmission about it and put two and two together.

Okay, so what was the 'lightning storm in space' that attacked the Klingon prison planet?
 
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