Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Aide?

[cbspock]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Why are you such a condescending sour grapes jackass that you need to make blanket statements about people who don't think exactly the same as you do and label them all a certain way, as if somehow only you understand Star Trek and can speak on behalf of everyone else?

You could say there are a bunch of Star Trek fans out there who are afraid to "boldly go where no one has gone before" So much for IDIC.


-Chris

 

[Ovation]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Can you accept that many people who have been Trekkies for a long time can love this new flick because they think it's great and no other reason?

No I can not.

Long time Star Trek fans love this movie because

1) It is the first "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie in memory.

Not true. I remember TMP and, adjusted for inflation, it was a "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie.

2) It has broad general audience appeal which Star Trek fans as stated above are dying to have.

Immaterial to why I enjoyed it (and I've been a fan since 1973--is that "long-time" enough for you?).

3) It is the first Star Trek movie in years and there is no series on the air. Thus aside from Trek Lit and computer games it is the only Trek in town.

Again, immaterial to why I enjoyed it. Any other "intelligent" observations to make?

YOU don't get to decide why anyone other than YOURSELF likes or dislikes the movie. Tough shit if you think otherwise.

 

[Dayton3]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Notice how just about everyone who comments about how great the new Star Trek movie is makes sure they insert in there somewhere about the movie being so popular with the general audience and/or the good reviews it has gotten?

Now tell me that Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity...

 

[Takomaguy]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

I don't understand how long time fans can view this latest movie and NOT be insulted. Seriously. Because they had a cameo of a tribble, we're expected to swoon? There wasn't even a hint of moral understory. Especially after all the hype, I was completely depressed after seeing it.

I posted a review of my own on my blog: http://thirdcathode.blogspot.com/2009/05/movie-review-star-trek-2009.html

Since nearly everyone else seems to have loved the movie, I would like to hear from fans who had negative reactions as I did - why did no one else find the film insulting?

Dude, lighten up.

 

[Amaris]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Notice how just about everyone who comments about how great the new Star Trek movie is makes sure they insert in there somewhere about the movie being so popular with the general audience and/or the good reviews it has gotten?

Now tell me that Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity...

Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity.
Dayton, I love the movie because I love the movie. It's popularity is only icing on what I consider to be a deliciously baked cake. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean we like it because it's popular.

J.

 

[Dayton3]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Can you accept that many people who have been Trekkies for a long time can love this new flick because they think it's great and no other reason?

No I can not.

Long time Star Trek fans love this movie because

1) It is the first "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie in memory.

Not true. I remember TMP and, adjusted for inflation, it was a "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie.

2) It has broad general audience appeal which Star Trek fans as stated above are dying to have.

Immaterial to why I enjoyed it (and I've been a fan since 1973--is that "long-time" enough for you?).

3) It is the first Star Trek movie in years and there is no series on the air. Thus aside from Trek Lit and computer games it is the only Trek in town.

Again, immaterial to why I enjoyed it. Any other "intelligent" observations to make?

.

That is what you claim.

But naturally, no one in the U.S. at least likes to admit that they are simply "going along with the crowd".

 

[Dayton3]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Notice how just about everyone who comments about how great the new Star Trek movie is makes sure they insert in there somewhere about the movie being so popular with the general audience and/or the good reviews it has gotten?

Now tell me that Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity...

Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity.


J.

Historically, no.

In May of 2009.

Yes. Yes. and Yes.!!

 

[Amaris]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Historically, no.

In May of 2009.

Yes. Yes. and Yes.!!

No. No and No.!!!.

Aw, damn. I just poked holes in your incredibly well thought out logic and brilliant riposte.


J.

 

[Greg Cox]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Can you accept that many people who have been Trekkies for a long time can love this new flick because they think it's great and no other reason?

No I can not.

Long time Star Trek fans love this movie because

1) It is the first "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie in memory.

2) It has broad general audience appeal which Star Trek fans as stated above are dying to have.

3) It is the first Star Trek movie in years and there is no series on the air. Thus aside from Trek Lit and computer games it is the only Trek in town.

Ironic isn't it. For two generations Star Trek fans have ridiculed Star Wars and other science fiction franchises as "mindless action" and things like that.

Now, they have a movie closer in general tone to Star Wars and other science fiction franchises than any other.

And they revel in it.

Er, speak for yourself please. Unless you performed a mind-meld on me when I wasn't looking, don't presume to tell me why I liked the movie.

 

[ST-One]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Notice how just about everyone who comments about how great the new Star Trek movie is makes sure they insert in there somewhere about the movie being so popular with the general audience and/or the good reviews it has gotten?

Now tell me that Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity...

Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity.


J.

Historically, no.

In May of 2009.

Yes. Yes. and Yes.!!

Have you seen the film yet?

 

[Dayton3]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Historically, no.

In May of 2009.

Yes. Yes. and Yes.!!

No. No and No.!!!.

Aw, damn. I just poked holes in your incredibly well thought out logic and brilliant riposte.


J.

Then why the posts by people talking about how great the movie is...and the fact that they continually refer to the movies popularity, its "buzz" and its reviews?

If they are praising the movie on its own merits those types of statements should not be present.

I know its comforting to say to yourself.

"This Star Trek movie is so GREAT!!. So great that even the non Star Trek fans love it".

In reality, it is

"this Star Trek movie is so great. BECAUSE non Star Trek fans love it".

Chasing popularity.........

 

[Ovation]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

No I can not.

Long time Star Trek fans love this movie because

1) It is the first "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie in memory.

Not true. I remember TMP and, adjusted for inflation, it was a "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie.Immaterial to why I enjoyed it (and I've been a fan since 1973--is that "long-time" enough for you?).

3) It is the first Star Trek movie in years and there is no series on the air. Thus aside from Trek Lit and computer games it is the only Trek in town.

Again, immaterial to why I enjoyed it. Any other "intelligent" observations to make?

.

That is what you claim.

But naturally, no one in the U.S. at least likes to admit that they are simply "going along with the crowd".

I don't live in the US. And I didn't need "a crowd" when I watched all the other iterations--most of which were vastly LESS popular than this one. The reasons why one likes or dislikes the movie are vast--not the narrowly defined fantasy you've constructed to make yourself feel better about your own views.

 

[Dayton3]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Star Trek fans are not guilty of chasing popularity.


J.

Historically, no.

In May of 2009.

Yes. Yes. and Yes.!!

Have you seen the film yet?

As I've stated.

I'm going to see it after it has been out at least a week.

But that matters not.

I know the movie in great detail.

I know the details of every movie I've ever seen before I so much as park my car at the theatre.

 

[Dayton3]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Not true. I remember TMP and, adjusted for inflation, it was a "big budget event type" of Star Trek movie.Immaterial to why I enjoyed it (and I've been a fan since 1973--is that "long-time" enough for you?).

Again, immaterial to why I enjoyed it. Any other "intelligent" observations to make?

.

That is what you claim.

But naturally, no one in the U.S. at least likes to admit that they are simply "going along with the crowd".

I don't live in the US. And I didn't need "a crowd" when I watched all the other iterations--most of which were vastly LESS popular than this one. The reasons why one likes or dislikes the movie are vast--not the narrowly defined fantasy you've constructed to make yourself feel better about your own views.

We can just agree to disagree.

 

[Ovation]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Historically, no.

In May of 2009.

Yes. Yes. and Yes.!!

Have you seen the film yet?

As I've stated.

I'm going to see it after it has been out at least a week.

But that matters not.

I know the movie in great detail.

I know the details of every movie I've ever seen before I so much as park my car at the theatre.

What a sad, sad world you must live in, to be devoid of surprise like that (I'm not even attempting sarcasm--it is actually a sad thing). It also explains much of your comments.

 

[blockaderunner]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Aide?

Probably not. But this movie has 72.5 million reasons why you, and other old school Trekkies' opinions don't mean squat anymore.

You don't like it. Watch the same old episodes ad infinitum and stop bitching.

 

[Aragorn]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

We can just agree to disagree.

 

[Dayton3]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Aide?

You don't like it. Watch the same old episodes ad infinitum and stop bitching.

Naturally.

Because hoping for a Star Trek movie that meets or exceeds our standards is obviously out of the question.

 

[Amaris]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Then why the posts by people talking about how great the movie is...and the fact that they continually refer to the movies popularity, its "buzz" and its reviews?

If they are praising the movie on its own merits those types of statements should not be present.

I know its comforting to say to yourself.

"This Star Trek movie is so GREAT!!. So great that even the non Star Trek fans love it".

In reality, it is

"this Star Trek movie is so great. BECAUSE non Star Trek fans love it".

Chasing popularity.........

You are a fucking idiot.

I'll gladly take a warning for that, too. I'm sorry, but this pure level of asinine ignorance just can't be ignored. It's just outrageously bad, and so filled with fail that it's like watching the Hindenburg go down in a hurricane on the Fourth of July! Oh, Dayton, your insane ramblings amuse me so.

Remember folks, because Dayton doesn't like the movie, the only reason all of you like it is because it's popular!

I mean, you say some stupid shit, mostly when you were in TNZ and over at WF, but wow, you can spread it everywhere you go! You're like the Johnny Appleseed of bullshit!

Holy shit, you made my day, you shit shoveling, ignorant backwoods son of a bitch!

J.

 

[ST-One]

Re: Come on people - am I the only fan who can't drink Abrams' Cool Ai

Historically, no.

In May of 2009.

Yes. Yes. and Yes.!!

Have you seen the film yet?

As I've stated.

I'm going to see it after it has been out at least a week.

But that matters not.

I know the movie in great detail.

I know the details of every movie I've ever seen before I so much as park my car at the theatre.

That's spectacularly stupid.