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Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan base

GBaxter

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Having seen the new film myself, I thought it was ok, but it was largely forgettable after it ended and has been a tad overrated by many US critics (I'm not a fan of the alternate timeline idea the film uses. The Nero character is dull, poorly written and not given enough screen time and they should've just had younger characters who were descendants of the original characters).

Nevertheless, as Paramount badly need overseas teenagers to go see this film, it'll be interesting seeing how the film fares outside North America (I'm in Australia) because if the box office is a lot weaker than North America, it could affect any sequels getting made. Star Trek's fan base is seen as healthy in Australia and the UK, but regarded as poor and weak in other countries.


Wed., May 6, 2009.

'Star Trek' likely to beam up audiences.
Paramount pic opens in US, overseas Thursday. By PAMELA McCLINTOCK.

Foreign box office for Star Trek, which Paramount begins beaming into theaters around the world Thursday, will be every bit as important as the domestic performance. In the US, Star Trek rolls out 7 pm Thursday in 3800 theaters. It's opening day and date be in virtually every major territory, save for Japan and Mexico. Par has come under intense scrutiny for trying to relaunch the classic sci-fi franchise, which has spawned 10 films, the last of which Star Trek : Nemesis was released in 2002.

It's a formidable challenge. Younger moviegoers in the U.S. aren't generally familiar with the franchise, while foreign audiences have never been big fans of ST films. In addition to a huge domestic push, Paramount has launched perhaps the biggest international publicity campaign in its history for Star Trek, directed by J.J. Abrams and toplining Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto. Script was penned by Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman. Par has held premieres for ST in Australia, London, Germany and the US. There was to have been a premiere in Mexico this week, but it was called off because of the flu outbreak. Next week, there will be a premiere in Japan.

There also have been a number of junkets and pre-release screening, including Austria, New Zealand, Belgium, Holland and Madrid. Also Abrams travelled to Kuwait to host a screening for US troops. Cast members, or some combination thereof, have attended the premieres and many of the junkets. 'The publicity campaign is the most sustained and the most in-depth that I can ever remember', Paramount prexy of international distribution Andrew Cripps said. 'We've had incredibly supportive filmmakers who understand that they need to get the word out', Cripps said. The international campaign stretches back to February, when Abrams went overseas with 20 minutes of footage. His itinerary included Germany, Korea, Japan, London and France.

It's nearly impossible to pin down exactly why Star Trek never caught on overseas the way other American properties have. Some say it's because the Trek TV shows were never widely syndicated, except for the UK and Australia, where the franchise has seen solid business, along with Germany. Studios rely heavily on foreign grosses when it comes to their franchises. It's not uncommon for the international box office to match or exceed, domestic returns.
A successful reboot of the Star Trek will require at least a solid showing on the international side - at least $100 million. In other words, the days are gone when studios could rely solely on domestic properties. The last 4 Star Trek films, based on the TV spinoff ST:TNG saw better international grosses than the first 6 films, but those revenues still fell far short of domestic receipts. In other words, the days are gone when studios could rely solely on domestic properties. Star Trek Nemesis the last pic, grossed $43.3 million domestically and $24.1 million overseas (film's overall poor showing led the shelving of the franchise). Star Trek : Insurrection, the film before that grossed $70.2 million domestically and $47.6 overseas.

The original 6 films had a far more difficult time. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home grossed $109.7 million domestically - the best gross in North America of any of the 10 films. Voyage's international cume was $23.3 million. In terms of Star Trek's opening weekend gross, Par insiders are predicting $50 million to $60 million domestically. Rivals agree. Tracking shows younger demos less interested than adults, although the numbers are picking up for the under 18 crowd. Advance ticket sales for domestic runs surged Tuesday, with 87 Imax shows alone selling out. Like several other recent films, Star Trek could outperform tracking. Par's task has been to convince a younger generation that this isn't the Star Trek of old, but a new, pumped-up version with a young cast and state-of-the-art special effects.

With 20th Century Fox's X-Men Origins: Wolverine opening last weekend to $85 million domestically and $73 million internationally, Par could find itself under pressure to match those numbers. But the studio said they are entirely different properties, and that Wolverine had the advantage of being part of a modern-day hit franchise. Star Trek and Wolverine cost around $130 million to produce. Spyglass co-financed Star Trek. Restarting a franchise is tricky. Successful reboots include Christopher Nolan's Batman Begins, which was followed by worldwide blockbuster The Dark Knight and the Bourne series. Paramount has a good track record in terms of it worldwide marketing campaigns. Two summer ago, Transformers earned north of $319.2 million domestically and $389 million domestically.
 
Re: Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan

they should've just had younger characters who were descendants of the original characters
:wtf:

Umm, okay. Sulu and Uhura have babies perhaps?

They are using the formula with the best odds of success: Kirk, Spock, Enterprise. Then they deliver a kick-ass, action-packed movie that appeals to the great unwashed masses that have zero clue about Star Trek, while making a serious effort to be true to the character of the franchise, not just for the sake of the fans but because if there wasn't something to Star Trek, nobody would give a flying frak about it at this point. When something has durability like that, is it really so smart to disrespect it? Much smarter to find that nugget that created the durability and put it to use in your favor.

After that, it's in the hands of fate. They have seriously done all they could.
 
Re: Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan

Uh..... all the main characters having kids who then all end up serving together is probably a lot more far fetched than a group of time traveling Romulans altering the time line.
 
Re: Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan

Uh..... all the main characters having kids who then all end up serving together is probably a lot more far fetched than a group of time traveling Romulans altering the time line.

LOL that would be just plain weird! :eek:
 
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This pretty good interview and i agree Trek needs to improve overseas market. When the first rumor came out that they where doing another Trek film with original crew when they where young. I saw opportunity instead off showing us bumpy head aliens that look like humans. I would have cast more humans ethnicity diversity for the new movie f.c. people from China, India e.c.c.. I would have like if they had casted popular Asian actor for Sulu part and popular Russian for Chekov part. This would help raise awareness in Trek in countries that hasn't showed any interest in Trek before.
The original 6 films had a far more difficult time. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home grossed $109.7 million domestically - the best gross in North America of any of the 10 films. Voyage's international cume was $23.3 million.
Please note this numbers are not adjusted for inflation. I cant understand why people keep putting numbers that is inaccurate to measure box office records. The Voyage made $109.7 million domestically but if we adjust it for 2009 inflation it made less the The Motion Picture.
Also there is a big contrast between those 2 films that is worth telling. The Voyage Home overseas gross was 21% against domestic gross. That is poor and those bad numbers are efficient in all Trek movies with the original cast minus the Motion Picture.
The Motion Picture the first film in the "Star Trek" franchise, and is consistently, and unfairly, maligned. But remarkably if we look at it overseas gross. We see overseas gross for the Motion Picture is healthy 41% compare to The Voyage Home poor 21%.
TNG movies did better in overseas market, roughly 35-37% but still less the The Motion Picture.
 
Re: Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan

I would have cast more humans ethnicity diversity for the new movie f.c. people from China, India e.c.c.. I would have like if they had casted popular Asian actor for Sulu part and popular Russian for Chekov part. This would help raise awareness in Trek in countries that hasn't showed any interest in Trek before.

While it's not a bad idea in theory and for some of the characters, I'd point out that Sulu was born in San Fransisco. It wouldn't make sense for an actor from Japan with a Japanese English accent to play him.
 
Re: Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan

they should've just had younger characters who were descendants of the original characters
:wtf:

Umm, okay. Sulu and Uhura have babies perhaps?

Nah. Sulu and Chekov have a civil ceremony then adopt a child.

I would pay real money to see that! :rommie:

But we all know which two guys are headed for significant otherhood...let's see little Tiberius Jr with pointy ears. :p
I would have like if they had casted popular Asian actor for Sulu part and popular Russian for Chekov part. This would help raise awareness in Trek in countries that hasn't showed any interest in Trek before.
The notion that people won't get their asses to the theater just because it's a good movie with good writing, good effects, and strong actors is frankly an idiotic attitude and doesn't need to be pandered to. What the flying frak does it matter what nationality the actors are? Should we insist Spock be played by an actual half-Vulcan? All that matters is that they look like the right race/ethnicity (Chekov for instance is played by an actor of Russian ethnicity, which lends credibility to the role, although I wouldn't say even that is 100% necessary) and that they can act worth a damn. How about giving the poor actors some credit for the ability to prove their worth on-screen rather than worrying about what their passports say? Talk about irrelevant!
 
Re: Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan

. I would have like if they had casted popular Asian actor for Sulu part and popular Russian for Chekov part. This would help raise awareness in Trek in countries that hasn't showed any interest in Trek before.

Sulu is being played by a popular Asian-American actor, John Cho. And Anton Yelchin is actually Russian, born in then Soviet Russia, Leningrad to be specific, and grew up here when his parents, figure skaters, recieved political refugee status in 1989.
 
Re: Variety says Star Trek will need to expand it's weak overseas fan

While it's kind of buried in the article, I'm glad some mention was made of the German audience. When I worked at Star Trek: The Experience, Germans were a big part of our regular clientele, along with the UK and Australia.

I think, marketing-wise, Paramount is being very smart with the international press junkets and mega-ad campaigns.

BTW, it's 12:40 pm in CA. 6 hrs., 20 min. to Trekgasm or Trekpression.
 
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