TOS Scripts
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"Begun"? They've been doing it for about twenty years now. 
First as Lincoln Enterprises and then as roddenberry.com ... same company. As for any changes, well, yes. Pretty much every script has something that had to be cut, whether for timing or pacing or whatnot. Unless you purchase one of the transcripts (one of the movies has this available) then you're getting the script. Transcripts - just the dialog, and should match exactly what's on screen.
They also have variations of the movie scripts, various drafts etc.
First as Lincoln Enterprises and then as roddenberry.com ... same company. As for any changes, well, yes. Pretty much every script has something that had to be cut, whether for timing or pacing or whatnot. Unless you purchase one of the transcripts (one of the movies has this available) then you're getting the script. Transcripts - just the dialog, and should match exactly what's on screen.They also have variations of the movie scripts, various drafts etc.
I own copies from them of the entire first season and a few second and third season scripts from other sources. Even the so-called Final Drafts and Revised Finals have many differences to what aired. Myself and alchemist review TOS scripts online. See the first link in my sig.
Sir Rhosis, (alphabetically, the senior Dave)
Sir Rhosis, (alphabetically, the senior Dave)
Omaha:
Yes, I know Roddenberry.com is/was Lincoln Enterprises...and that the scripts have been available forever practically.
I have just never bought them because I was afraid they reflected only what appeared onscreen.
I am, however, interested in purchasing scripts that have deleted scenes in them. If that's the case, then there's a few I'd like to get.
The impetus for this is over at startrekhistory.com there are some images from some cut scenes from various episodes...some of them include script there. I was wanting complete scripts with these scenes in their entirety (or more) in the scripts...
It's something I personally have not read before...
Rhosis:
Excellent site! I've been there before...great stuff there!
Yes, I know Roddenberry.com is/was Lincoln Enterprises...and that the scripts have been available forever practically.
I have just never bought them because I was afraid they reflected only what appeared onscreen.
I am, however, interested in purchasing scripts that have deleted scenes in them. If that's the case, then there's a few I'd like to get.
The impetus for this is over at startrekhistory.com there are some images from some cut scenes from various episodes...some of them include script there. I was wanting complete scripts with these scenes in their entirety (or more) in the scripts...
It's something I personally have not read before...
Rhosis:
Excellent site! I've been there before...great stuff there!
Hi Quasar (or is that Mr. VM? 
),
As both a contributor to Unseen Elements (I'm the other Dave) and startrekhistory.com (I'm on staff there), I'm always looking for deleted scene film clips and their corresponding script extracts. Pairing unbroadcast Trek images with deleted scenes is not only challenging but a lot of fun!
From my observations, the Lincoln scripts are generally either shooting drafts, final drafts, or revised final drafts. Thus, most of them contain the filmed, but later cut, scenes. However, I should point out that I've found authentic Trek scripts that were later revisions of the Lincoln "final" draft scripts, so it appears that they didn't alway reproduce the final versions. This is no fault of theirs, however, because there were a lot of drafts for a given episode - from the first draft all the way to the shooting script. In fact, in many instances, the scripts were being revised as the episode was being shot and edited.
At any rate, we do our best to include the full extracts of deleted scenes with the images.
Best,
Dave, Jr.
),As both a contributor to Unseen Elements (I'm the other Dave) and startrekhistory.com (I'm on staff there), I'm always looking for deleted scene film clips and their corresponding script extracts. Pairing unbroadcast Trek images with deleted scenes is not only challenging but a lot of fun!
From my observations, the Lincoln scripts are generally either shooting drafts, final drafts, or revised final drafts. Thus, most of them contain the filmed, but later cut, scenes. However, I should point out that I've found authentic Trek scripts that were later revisions of the Lincoln "final" draft scripts, so it appears that they didn't alway reproduce the final versions. This is no fault of theirs, however, because there were a lot of drafts for a given episode - from the first draft all the way to the shooting script. In fact, in many instances, the scripts were being revised as the episode was being shot and edited.
At any rate, we do our best to include the full extracts of deleted scenes with the images.
Best,
Dave, Jr.
In some cases, the changes were something done on the set and never reflected in any draft, generally ad libs, rephrasing of lines, that sort of thing. Others, a late decision that Sulu, Uhura, or whoever didn't really need to say a certain line, thus moving the story along and resulting in a blood feud years later with Shatner.
Hi Quasar (or is that Mr. VM?
As both a contributor to Unseen Elements (I'm the other Dave) and startrekhistory.com (I'm on staff there), I'm always looking for deleted scene film clips and their corresponding script extracts. Pairing unbroadcast Trek images with deleted scenes is not only challenging but a lot of fun!
From my observations, the Lincoln scripts are generally either shooting drafts, final drafts, or revised final drafts. Thus, most of them contain the filmed, but later cut, scenes. However, I should point out that I've found authentic Trek scripts that were later revisions of the Lincoln "final" draft scripts, so it appears that they didn't alway reproduce the final versions. This is no fault of theirs, however, because there were a lot of drafts for a given episode - from the first draft all the way to the shooting script. In fact, in many instances, the scripts were being revised as the episode was being shot and edited.
At any rate, we do our best to include the full extracts of deleted scenes with the images.
Best,
Dave, Jr.
Hi Dave,
Great job with BOTH sites!
Ok, let me ask this question then: Are the James Blish Episode novelizations based on earlier versions of the scripts? And do these include all the scenes?
I've been fan since I was about 5 -- that's a long time ago -- but never really gave the script question much thought until visiting startrekhistory.com and discovering those cut scenes -- the one's from Elaan of Troyius and Spock's Brain come immediately to mind...
Thanks...Oh...and that's "Mr. VM"...
Hi Dave,
Great job with BOTH sites!
Ok, let me ask this question then: Are the James Blish Episode novelizations based on earlier versions of the scripts? And do these include all the scenes?
I've been fan since I was about 5 -- that's a long time ago -- but never really gave the script question much thought until visiting startrekhistory.com and discovering those cut scenes -- the one's from Elaan of Troyius and Spock's Brain come immediately to mind...
Thanks...Oh...and that's "Mr. VM"...
Mr. VM,
Thanks for the kudos -- I really enjoy sharing!
With regards to your question concerning the Blish novelizations, I gave my opinion just now in this thread:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=78167
Regards,
Dave
I have a script of "The Omega Glory" - it contains a couple of scenes that were cut from the final print - also a scant few lines of dialogue are slightly different. Lt. Galloway is called "Lt. Raintree" throughout the script - otherwise, it pretty much is filmed exactly as written.
teleplays
Does any website plan on selling PDF files of an entire season or series of scripts (teleplays) including unproduced teleplays on CD-R ?
other than this site:
and one never submitted story outline here:
http://www.larryniven.org/stories/pastel.shtml
as Shatmandu mentioned:
What about "Phase II" scripts?
Of the Phase II 12 original scripts are there any we can read ?
The above fastcopy inc has the story treatment and rough 1st draft of "In Thy Image" which became TMP and the story outline of ST:III TSFS .
Has Paramount considered putting them (or even a few episodes) on the Blu-ray/DVD as a special feature on any of the series?
Does any website plan on selling PDF files of an entire season or series of scripts (teleplays) including unproduced teleplays on CD-R ?
other than this site:
http://www.fastcopyinc.com/orionpress/articles/unseen.htm
and one never submitted story outline here:
http://www.larryniven.org/stories/pastel.shtml
as Shatmandu mentioned:
What about "Phase II" scripts?
form this post.
Of the Phase II 12 original scripts are there any we can read ?
The above fastcopy inc has the story treatment and rough 1st draft of "In Thy Image" which became TMP and the story outline of ST:III TSFS .
Has Paramount considered putting them (or even a few episodes) on the Blu-ray/DVD as a special feature on any of the series?
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Re: teleplays
^^^Just to clarify since I'm one of the fellows who writes those reviews at Orion Press. Those are NOT the full treatments, etc. Rather, they are brief synopses of the treatments, outlines, scripts, etc.
Sir Rhosis
^^^Just to clarify since I'm one of the fellows who writes those reviews at Orion Press. Those are NOT the full treatments, etc. Rather, they are brief synopses of the treatments, outlines, scripts, etc.
Sir Rhosis
The TOS scripts at Roddenberry.com say published January 2009.
69-80 pages approximately for most.
$19.99 each!?
69-80 pages approximately for most.
I have a number of TOS scripts, which vary depending upon the script from relatively early drafts to final shooting scripts which nonetheless generally contain scenes and dialogue which varies from the finished episode.
"The Corbomite Maneuver" is the most interesting of these - I'm sure it's the same draft you'd get from Roddenberry - because of the sometimes odd and generally interesting ways that Sohl tries to introduce and define a number of the supporting characters like Uhura and Sulu (remember this is the first production episode of the series). He acknowledges that Uhura is not a native English speaker, for example.
I have a couple of Phase II scripts around here somewhere - "Devil's Due" and "Kitumba" - and at one time owned a copy of "Blood And Fire" from TNG. "Kitumba" is a really strongtwo-part story that's a little short on characterization; "Devil's Due" is surprisingly superficial and unlikely as a story but IIRC has some nice character stuff involving McCoy and Xon.
"The Corbomite Maneuver" is the most interesting of these - I'm sure it's the same draft you'd get from Roddenberry - because of the sometimes odd and generally interesting ways that Sohl tries to introduce and define a number of the supporting characters like Uhura and Sulu (remember this is the first production episode of the series). He acknowledges that Uhura is not a native English speaker, for example.
I have a couple of Phase II scripts around here somewhere - "Devil's Due" and "Kitumba" - and at one time owned a copy of "Blood And Fire" from TNG. "Kitumba" is a really strongtwo-part story that's a little short on characterization; "Devil's Due" is surprisingly superficial and unlikely as a story but IIRC has some nice character stuff involving McCoy and Xon.
Haven't seen them in ages, but I have "Kitumba" and "In Thy Image", plus a copy of "Deadlock", from "Phase II".
It came up as a convention charity auction item, being compered by yours truly, and Brian Croucher (Travis II of "Blake's 7"). Someone in the crowd suggested that Brian do an impromptu selected reading of the script to boost the bidding. While he played the two aliens and - if I recall, Ilia - I got to play Will Decker (wearing glasses), Scotty (finger under nose like a mustache), Xon (index fingers making slanted eyebrows), and Kirk (with one hand covering my hair and the other hand stuffing a sweater under my shirt).
Totally bizarre!
Pocket Books was all set to do the scripts as a book collection, but the red tape for legal clearances and royalties was problematic.
http://www.well.com/~sjroby/lostbooks.html#88st
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