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NCC-1701 vs Superman

TheMasterOfOrion

TheMasterOfOrion

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Here's the picture the Q entity messes around with Kirk, he warps reality and sends Classic Enterprise to DC Earth. Luthor, Lois and all the DC sheep freak out at the alien ship and start screaming save me, save me....Superman arrives to smash Enterprise
No this isn't the version of Superman from the 60s who done the weirdest of stuff as those comic writers got 'inspired'. Nor is it the Donner version who pulls off the ultimate plot of stupidty, the ultimate deus ex machina out of nowhere and makes the Earth spin backwards
This is the current regular version of Superman who can destroy mountains with punches, fly faster than light but can still get his ass kicked by city busters like Doomsday

How tuff are Supermen?
In a Marvel crossover we saw a Super style character hit NCC-1701. His name was Gladiator, a more insane badass version of Superman from the X-men comics.
He punched our ship causing minor damage.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mn3AQWxAig
Too bad Enterprise didn't try to strike back

What would happen in a Superman vs Enterprise fight? Or more accurately how long will Superman last?
 
Im going to have to say that my money is on Superman. He coud probably fly so fast and zig and zag so that the enterprise could never hit him. And it would probably only take a couple times thru the hull and the Enterprise would be imploding...
But the Enterprise could probably win if it had enough time to prepare...
 
Starfleet Technobabble > Batman's Preparation > Superman.

Superman would win the original encounter, but Scotty and/or Spock would cook up something to capture and subdue him. Including, but not limited to, shooting red sun energy out of the main deflector, wiring the replicators into the phaser banks so they could shoot kryptonite lasers, and/or realizing that the transporter is magical and thus leaving Superman completely vulnerable to it.
 
I think a Photon Torpedo have a yield of 25 isotons or 50.6 megatons? Or was that 25 converted to 50600 Megatons.... I can't remember the conversion. Anyhow one of these is going to hurt Superman bad, probably kill him. The trouble is can Enterprise actually hit him since he moves so fast? BTW what speed does current Superman typically move at?

Anyhow if he's too fast to target I think a widespread tractor beam set to repel objects is going to make Superman's day a lot more difficult. Then as he's repelled back smack him with a torpedo for the KO

Checkmate said:
Starfleet Technobabble > Batman's Preparation > Superman.

Superman would win the original encounter, but Scotty and/or Spock would cook up something to capture and subdue him. Including, but not limited to, shooting red sun energy out of the main deflector, wiring the replicators into the phaser banks so they could shoot kryptonite lasers, and/or realizing that the transporter is magical and thus leaving Superman completely vulnerable to it.
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great answer ! :)
 
Depends, if the crew of the Enterprise knows who Superman is and his specific weakness then they could probably rig up some sort of Kryptonite radiation field or something. Or just warp to a solar system with a red sun.
 
The Enterprise would lock on with the tractor beam to hold him still and then use the transporter beam to transport him into a quadrillion pieces. If the 1701's deflectors act anything like energy shields then Superman probably wouldn't be able to do much damage anyway.
Also since Supermans powers are derived from a Yellow sun unless they're fighting in a Yellow sun star system Superman is dead in space.
 
Tachyon Shield said:
Also since Supermans powers are derived from a Yellow sun unless they're fighting in a Yellow sun star system Superman is dead in space.
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Interesting point but as I understand Superman's power's he is something of a sponge. The young boy he starts out with nothing much in the tank but as the months and years roll on he soaks up more and more sun energy drinking it up like a sponge. As a young man he could only pull of stunts like out race a bullet, was stronger than a locomotive...that's about the limit back then. Now days he's faster than light and stronger than a nuclear bomber. He probably has soaked up enough yellow sun energy over the years so he survive in space for an hour or two without becoming road kill.
 
Spock analyzes Superman's body and determines he's a "solar energy collector" and that he is "somehow" absorbing the sun's yellow rays to be "super." He surmises that bombarding Superman with the "solar rays" of another star it could weaken Superman. "What type of solar rays should we use."

"It is difficult to know, but using the wrong kind could potentially make him stronger."

They make a "best guess" of Red and blast Superman with "red solar rays", depower him and he dies.
 
Lt. Trull said:
Kryptonite shields and krytponite phasers active captain...

FIRE!
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that would do it.

but thinking about this.

Superman would not have too much of a problem avoiding the Enterprise, but im pretty sure the Enterprise shields would handle Supermans heat vision.

the question becomes could Superman fly though the shield? and how many phaser blasts could Superman withstand? im actually less worried about the photon torpedo's as Superman could probaly catch them, and the Enterprise probaly couldnt fire off enough at once, that he couldnt dodge them.

I think if the Enterprise put phasers on full spread, Superman would soon be hit by enough that he would loose any charge he has from a yellow son, and fall unconscious, after that a couple more direct hits or a photon torpedo should finish him.
 
The absolute and ONLY chance the Enterprise would have would be if they were lucky enough to get a transporter-lock on Superman. I doubt shields would block his heat vision so he could fry the photon torpedo launchers and phaser banks or just smash them physically at super-speed. Kirk and crew don't stand a chance except for the transporter.
 
But which Superman is the NCC-1701 going up against? Earth-2? Golden Age? Silver Age? All-Star? Bronze? Etc.?

In any case, as a fan of both Trek and Superman, I am caught between a rock and a hard place.
 
Depends entirely on the writer. If you've got a Superman fanboy, especially a Silver Age Superman fanboy, Superman will win easily.

If you go by a writer that treats Superman with some logic and rationality, he's toast.
 
Tachyon Shield said:
Hello people, the 1701 has tractor beams and transporters.

Superman is molecular minced meat.
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Doubtful. Superman has SUPER-SPEED. Even the Computer would be too slow to get a lock on him with either the transporter or the tractor beam (I doubt the tractor beam would hold him anyhow). Superman could zig-zag in and out, punching holes through the saucer section faster than Spock could say, "illogical". He could rip the pylons free and toss the nacelles a light away. He could shove his fist into the anti-matter reactor and disrupt the magnetic seals and let the ship blow ITSELF to pieces.

Even if the crew had means to manufacture kryptonite, they'd have no way of KNOWING in advance it would even effect Superman. Kryptonite is undoubtedly an unknown element in the Star Trek universe and no record of it likely exists in the Federation data banks.


The Enterprsie crew's ONLY hope remains the transporter and getting a lock on a superspeeding kryptonian would be sheer luck.
 
Praetor said:
Somehow, I doubt even Superman goes faster than the speed of light.
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These days, Superman indeed goes faster than the speed of light once again - in the comics.

Hence why I said; if it's written by a Superman fanboy, and especially a Silver Age Superman fanboy, Superman will win.

And for Superman simply flying through the saucer, and tearing pylons off - there is such a thing as shields.

PS: The Enterprise can go FTL as well, and fight at FTL.
 
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