When Nero and Spock travel back to the 2330s and destroys the USS Kelvin, the timeline diverges. From TNG’s “Parallels”, it can be interpreted when a timeline diverges it creates a parallel universe. But what if the Abramsverse is a preexisting parallel universe that was mostly similar to the main trekinverse up until Nero and the Narada appeared in the 23rd century? Though I’m satisfied with Bob Orci’s explanation of the timelines diverging and co-existing, a pre-existing Abramsverse prior to Nero would give writers greater flexibility on certain events like the Eugenics Wars. In TOS and TWOK, it’s explicitly stated Khan and his minions fled earth on a sleeper in 1996, which would also be true if the Abrams Trek timeline diverged from the main Trek timeline in the 23rd century. If the Abramsverse existed prior to Nero, the Eugenics wars or other earth events can be moved up or changed.
Abramsverse - alternate timeline or alternate universe?
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It's, um, a new version of Star Trek.
Maybe
It's a new universe of course.
It can change back though. JJ Abrams might someday put a CGI Shatner face over Pine's in the special edition and change the Enterprise back to normal and stuff.
It can change back though. JJ Abrams might someday put a CGI Shatner face over Pine's in the special edition and change the Enterprise back to normal and stuff.
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Star Trek: There are strict rules to this alternate universe
article that brings up a few points . No spoilers.
Star Trek: There are strict rules to this alternate universe
May 04, 2009
http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/story.html?id=1562497
article that brings up a few points . No spoilers.
Star Trek: There are strict rules to this alternate universe
May 04, 2009
http://www.nationalpost.com/arts/story.html?id=1562497
Only problem with that is that it assumes the split in the fictional universes happens before the movie, and we have no reason to believe that.
You had me till you said ''2330s''
I'll just let you guys figure that one out!
...Or by the time we reach Picard's era will it be pretty much the same again?Oooh - I like that. To begin with, it explains a blue eyed Kirk and a brown eyed McCoy. Mild difference in genetics there. And I can't see Arwen/Amanda as a slight change.
I'll happily erase Khan's blonds from this multiverse.
Not how things have always been depicted in the Trek universe.
City on the Edge of Forever shows McCoy changing the timeline, and Kirk and Spock pretty much putting it back on track.
There was no divergent timeline. The ONE timeline in that universe got CHANGED and then changed back.
Similar to the TNG episode TIMESCAPE, where Beverly Crusher is accidentally killed and then prevented by being killed.
There are other examples.
Trek has never suggested brand new timelines are created when changes are made, with the characters involved in the change more or less abandoning their previous reality (even if the restored timeline is pretty similar). What Trek has always depicted is that the past can be changed, and then restored. This means ONE universe has its history altered, and then that very same universe has its history restored (or in some cases, NOT restored, but maybe made better).
There were no examples of timelines splitting off to create new realities in that episode.
There were simply parallel realities which were at some point similar but individually differed more and more from each other as time went on.
Will the phasers be changed into walkie talkies at the same time???
I beg to differ - the very premise of City is that time lines can diverge. The time line of the universe Kirk and Spock (and McCoy) knew wasn't necessarily destroyed. Once they became part of the new City time line, in that timeline the future was changed. Whether or not the Trek universe still existed outside of that timeline was not something they could prove or disprove - nor was it relevent, given their circumstances.
ST never showed a diverging time line because they wouldn't have been able to follow two time lines in a single series. However, the idea of many universes containing the same people is canon - from Mirror and on. As is the idea of different actions creating different futures.
To accept the premise of the reboot, you need to accept the premise of different time lines. I see it as a clean slate - as well as a reason why there are some physical differences between the old actors and the new ones, as well as technological differences between the universes. This is an AU Trek from before the movie starts, IMHO.
If it's a different universe, I'm cool with that. If it's a different timeline, I'm cool with that.
