Smallville 8x19 "Stiletto" - Discussion/Spoilers
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^ What do "we" all think happens?
As for Chloe, I'd hardly call her drab in this episode, though disturbed and loaded with issues certainly apply. IMO, this arc with Davis has been the most interesting one she's had for years. There's a reason that during seasons 6 and 7, people were calling her Pod!Chloe.
And I don't think they want us to hate her, I think they want us feeling sorry for her. And with the stellar acting work from AM this episode, they've certainly succeeded as far as I'm concerned. Girl damn well broke my heart.
As for Chloe, I'd hardly call her drab in this episode, though disturbed and loaded with issues certainly apply. IMO, this arc with Davis has been the most interesting one she's had for years. There's a reason that during seasons 6 and 7, people were calling her Pod!Chloe.
And I don't think they want us to hate her, I think they want us feeling sorry for her. And with the stellar acting work from AM this episode, they've certainly succeeded as far as I'm concerned. Girl damn well broke my heart.
That Chloe is the one who dies in the season finale. Her recent behaviour and the fact that the Legion said they had never heard of her points to it.
Ah, but there are 3 main things pointing toward her staying that I'm more inclined to believe in.
1. At the end of season 7, she got a 2 season contract, meaning seasons 8 and 9. With the contract still up, they have to pay her for every episode in season 9 even if she doesn't appear in them. Even if they were to buy out her contract for the year now, they would still have to pay her a reduced but considerable amount.
2. Ausiello, the guy who broke the Two Deaths spoiler in the first place, posted this:
1. At the end of season 7, she got a 2 season contract, meaning seasons 8 and 9. With the contract still up, they have to pay her for every episode in season 9 even if she doesn't appear in them. Even if they were to buy out her contract for the year now, they would still have to pay her a reduced but considerable amount.
2. Ausiello, the guy who broke the Two Deaths spoiler in the first place, posted this:
3. In a recent interview, one of the producer's said this:
According to Austiello, he said that one of the deaths was "technically" a show veteran. And that it was a "long running" character.
Upon hearing that, taking every word he said as part of a clue, I said that person will wind up being Bart Allen, not Chloe. Bart was originally introduced in season four, and appeared once again in season six's episode Justice. So he only has two episodes so far. "Technically" that makes him a show veteran. As opposed to a "rookie", who would be in their first year of the show. Plus, I can't think of anyone on the show who has run longer than Impulse/the Flash.
Since then, on 4/13 Kryptonsite's spoiler page has revealed that Kyle Gallner will return in the finale to reprise his role as Bart Allen/Impulse.
I say Chloe lives and it is Bart who dies, along with Davis as the "metaphorical death" since Doomsday himself will live. He will just permanently lose his human side, possibly by Chloe being forced to reject him. Giving her a "tragic end" of her current story arc. As she will have lost out on love twice this season with both Jimmy and Davis, as well as losing one of her Justice Leaguers she serves as Watchtower for.
Upon hearing that, taking every word he said as part of a clue, I said that person will wind up being Bart Allen, not Chloe. Bart was originally introduced in season four, and appeared once again in season six's episode Justice. So he only has two episodes so far. "Technically" that makes him a show veteran. As opposed to a "rookie", who would be in their first year of the show. Plus, I can't think of anyone on the show who has run longer than Impulse/the Flash.
Since then, on 4/13 Kryptonsite's spoiler page has revealed that Kyle Gallner will return in the finale to reprise his role as Bart Allen/Impulse.
I say Chloe lives and it is Bart who dies, along with Davis as the "metaphorical death" since Doomsday himself will live. He will just permanently lose his human side, possibly by Chloe being forced to reject him. Giving her a "tragic end" of her current story arc. As she will have lost out on love twice this season with both Jimmy and Davis, as well as losing one of her Justice Leaguers she serves as Watchtower for.
On both those theories:
Question: You spoiled recently that there will be a permanent veteran death in the Smallville season finale. Is this character featured in the Season 8 opening credits? --Krissy
Ausiello: Yes.
Ausiello: Yes.
Eh, I Disagree.
I think it's either Oliver or Jimmy that gets killed off, both of whom have been around long enough to be considered "veterans", imho.
I can't see them doing that, especially not with Jimmy. Jimmy Olsen is too vital a part of the Superman mythos.
Teague was attacking and would have killed to get that item so Lana was defending herself. Chole was being told to leave a message for someone else and then covered up the murder.
Yes. Apart from the fact that the message Chloe would be leaving for "Stiletto" would be her dead, throat-slit corpse and calling the police in would just result in a Doomed out Davis turning them all into squishy bits.
As for all our theories, I think I'll just leave it as is. At least one of us will be quite surprised when the finale rolls around.
Edit: Oh, and here's Season 8's Dvd cover.
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^ I'm surprised he allowed them to put him on the cover in a shirt and tie.
I'm afraid I have to agree with you Hermiod. I don't see that happening, which pretty much spells bad news for the cute little blond.
If she IS the one who gets killed, I at least hope they make her death somewhat meaningful, in context to the show.
It's probably the closest thing to the proper Red and Blue suit we'll get.
Nah, a Terminator shoots her in the head as she turns a corner.
People, it isn't Chloe that is the person who is technically a veteran who dies. It is guest star Kyle Gallner aka Bart Allen. His dying will be why Cosmic Boy/Rokk Krinn makes a return (although he likely won't come out and say it), just as the Legion was in the present when Bart Allen died in Flash, Fastest Man Alive #12. He is here to capture Bart's essence before it is lost in the Speed Force and to take it to the future with him. Bart will use his faster-than-Kryptonian speed somehow in a way that will enable the League to get rid of the threat of Doomsday at the cost of his own life.
Remember, Ausiello said it was in line with established DC comics mythos. And my scenario is taken directly from said mythos.
Also consider, we already have a speedster for the Justice League in Clark. Bart may be faster, but he is also redundant. Plus Kyle Gallner's movie career seems to be taking off. So they use his death as a way to illustrate the League's need for Clark, making him step up even more. Hopefully Ollie will make him a costume based off their established ones and Clark's colors, staying away from any tights which should be enough to please Welling.
This will hit Chloe doubly hard, giving her story arc the tragic end as advertised. As Watchtower, she has had much more contact with Bart than Clark has had. She likely considers the entire team as close friends. So her losing both Bart and Davis at the same time, on top of losing Jimmy, will leave her devastated in the finale and give her character lots of material to plumb next season.
Remember, Ausiello said it was in line with established DC comics mythos. And my scenario is taken directly from said mythos.
Also consider, we already have a speedster for the Justice League in Clark. Bart may be faster, but he is also redundant. Plus Kyle Gallner's movie career seems to be taking off. So they use his death as a way to illustrate the League's need for Clark, making him step up even more. Hopefully Ollie will make him a costume based off their established ones and Clark's colors, staying away from any tights which should be enough to please Welling.
This will hit Chloe doubly hard, giving her story arc the tragic end as advertised. As Watchtower, she has had much more contact with Bart than Clark has had. She likely considers the entire team as close friends. So her losing both Bart and Davis at the same time, on top of losing Jimmy, will leave her devastated in the finale and give her character lots of material to plumb next season.