What I find stupid is in Smallville we have to sit through tons of more seasons of Clark-pining-for-a-chick-until-he-finally-hooks-up-with-her-crap!
The Top 11 Dumbest Superman Moments
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Clearly that's what he did because Jimmy runs up to him & Lois a few minutes later. Clearly Superman was able to save Jimmy. Yeah, it creates a paradox with 2 Supermans but...
...Christopher Reeve sure is awesome in this movie, isn't he?
Time farts and looks confused.
Been linked to twice already in the thread.
Oops.
3D Master
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Once more, if Superman was simply going back in time, he:
a. would have met himself in the past.
b. he wouldn't need to turn the Earth back in the right direction to make time move forward again.
So in other words; it's not a dumbest audience member for thinking that's what was occurring, that's what actually occurring. That you ignore what's on screen and just rewrite what happened in your mind, does not change what's on screen.
Checkmate
Commodore
Why would he have met himself? At which point was he in the same place twice?
He traveled back, stopped the second missile, then travelled back into the future to avoid having two of himselves (is that a word?) running around. If there's a problem in it, it's that he was able to travel back into the future the same way he traveled into the past; by presumably going faster than the speed of light. But that's a pretty damn common mistake. Even shows like Heroes made it when they supercharged Daphne's running speed. Likewise the paradox of him having stopped the second missile and thus not being angry enough to go back in time. But, yet again, that's a common mistake in most time travel stories shown on the big screen!
The fact that he just happened to fly in the direction the Earth appeared to be turning was a coincidence and, admittedly, a bad choice on the director's behalf. But that's all it was. He could have easily flown to the sun and back or any other number of methods. At no point whatsoever did the guy go flying around reversing everything that was happening. That's just stupid to assume, is not backed up by a single iota of evidence shown on screen (unless you're going to say he was under neath the waterfall and using his superbreath to blow it all uphill, and he was using his to-be-seen-in-a-future-movie's-rebuild-the-great-wall-TK-vision to pull Lois' car out of the ditch), and is just freakin' dumb to assume -- especially when you yourself admit how freakin' dumb it is. Occam's Razor: I'm sure you've heard of it.
Your refusal to accept what happened on the screen is fine and dandy. That doesn't make your wretched erroneous and foolish understanding of the scenes any less erroneous or foolish.
He traveled back, stopped the second missile, then travelled back into the future to avoid having two of himselves (is that a word?) running around. If there's a problem in it, it's that he was able to travel back into the future the same way he traveled into the past; by presumably going faster than the speed of light. But that's a pretty damn common mistake. Even shows like Heroes made it when they supercharged Daphne's running speed. Likewise the paradox of him having stopped the second missile and thus not being angry enough to go back in time. But, yet again, that's a common mistake in most time travel stories shown on the big screen!
The fact that he just happened to fly in the direction the Earth appeared to be turning was a coincidence and, admittedly, a bad choice on the director's behalf. But that's all it was. He could have easily flown to the sun and back or any other number of methods. At no point whatsoever did the guy go flying around reversing everything that was happening. That's just stupid to assume, is not backed up by a single iota of evidence shown on screen (unless you're going to say he was under neath the waterfall and using his superbreath to blow it all uphill, and he was using his to-be-seen-in-a-future-movie's-rebuild-the-great-wall-TK-vision to pull Lois' car out of the ditch), and is just freakin' dumb to assume -- especially when you yourself admit how freakin' dumb it is. Occam's Razor: I'm sure you've heard of it.
Your refusal to accept what happened on the screen is fine and dandy. That doesn't make your wretched erroneous and foolish understanding of the scenes any less erroneous or foolish.
3D Master
Rear Admiral
He went back into the past; there are now two of him.
Huh? What? Where? When? He didn't touch any second missile.
Uh, no. There would be two. One Superman who remembers Lois dying and going back into the past, and one Superman who went for the second missile and then went, "Huh? Where the hell did the second missile go?" And then he'd meet himself, the one who went back into the past and came back to the future. One Superman doesn't just disappear.
He wouldn't need to go faster than the speed of light to travel to the future, just go very fast close to the speed of light. Which again breaks with what was on screen; on screen, he went equally fast one way, as he went the other.
No, they didn't.
If they're so common; name them.
I'm not assuming anything! THAT is what is ON screen. And the directors and writers have even SAID so in commentary and in interviews that Superman reversing the flow of time is exactly the way it was written and filmed. YOU are the one who as assuming things erroneously and directly contradicting what's on screen, not me. And that's all nice and dandy to assume that and treat what you see on screen that way FOR YOURSELF, however, to what's on screen that doesn't matter one bit.
He overshot his temporal destination and had to go forward a little while to get where he wanted to be.
3D Master
Rear Admiral
He overshot his temporal destination and had to go forward a little while to get where he wanted to be.
Which means he would have had to use temporal dilation to get there, or in other words, just under the speed of light. While he went faster than the speed of light to go back in time. He should thus have been slower in the other direction, but he wasn't.
Face it: it was written, filmed and on screen as Superman reversing the flow of time, and resetting the flow of time.
He overshot his temporal destination and had to go forward a little while to get where he wanted to be.
Which means he would have had to use temporal dilation to get there, or in other words, just under the speed of light. While he went faster than the speed of light to go back in time. He should thus have been slower in the other direction, but he wasn't.
Face it: it was written, filmed and on screen as Superman reversing the flow of time, and resetting the flow of time.
Well, to be honest, could you visually tell the difference between "FTL" and "just under C."
I like the idea someone postulated above that he simply just went back in time, stopped the other missile, and then went back forward in time to get Lois. So, for a time, there were two Supermen.
Perhaps one of them faded out of exsistance once the timelines converged.
But as The Nostalgia Critic points out, Superman obviously could've flown fast enough to stop both missiles if he can fly fast enough to orbit the earth several times a second. (In a scene we see him fly over some farmers and fly back by them less than a second later.)
So for a time there were two
^Let's put it this way. Early on in the movie, young Clark (who presumably hadn't developed his powers to their fullest yet) could keep up with a speeding train.
Smallville Clark is capable of running, not flying, to South America from Kansas and back in seconds.
Lois and Clark's Clark was able to fly to China, purchase food and be back in Metropolis before Lois noticed.
Comic book Clark is capable of keeping up with The Flash and arguably even beating him in a race.
The idea that he was weakened due to the Kryptonite exposure was nonsense, he was flying around in the desert. That's like giving Popeye an all you can eat Spinach buffet.
Smallville Clark is capable of running, not flying, to South America from Kansas and back in seconds.
Lois and Clark's Clark was able to fly to China, purchase food and be back in Metropolis before Lois noticed.
Comic book Clark is capable of keeping up with The Flash and arguably even beating him in a race.
The idea that he was weakened due to the Kryptonite exposure was nonsense, he was flying around in the desert. That's like giving Popeye an all you can eat Spinach buffet.
