With the new movie, is Star Trek now "cooler" than Star Wars?

[Caligula]

Star Trek has always been cooler than Star Wars. I could care less if the latter is the more profitable franchise. However, both have been allowed to go on for so long due to feelings of nostalgia from each of their fanbases and also to the arrogance of the series' creators/producers who think that their audiences will eat up anything tossed at them like the Star Wars prequels (Attack of the Clones, especially), Star Trek's worst contributions in Nemesis and Enterprise, or even in the case of revised material like the Star Wars Special Editions. Greedo shoots first.... Bah! Humbug!

Even in the case of both franchises at their best, I'd still take The Wrath of Khan over The Empire Strikes Back.

 

[trekjiro]

SW is and will always be cool. I think all their movies are special and they've gone far beyond the movie arena. I don't get the 'rivalry' either with ST. Both are great franchises. I am guessing this will be the coolest ST. It definitely looks the coolest but its all about the story and thats what Lucas has hands down.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

This year? Yes, yes it is.

 

[miraclefan]

This year? Yes, yes it is.

Ha! I'll belive TREK is more ''cooler'' then wars IF I see kids at the toy aisle at wal-mart buying the trek toys, rather then buying the umptength luke figure!

 

[Mr. Adventure]

This year? Yes, yes it is.

Ha! I'll belive TREK is more ''cooler'' then wars IF I see kids at the toy aisle at wal-mart buying the trek toys, rather then buying the umptength luke figure!

I'll believe it if I see *kids* actually buying Trek toys.

I think Star Wars might have held the edge over Trek because there aren't as many stories about guys turning their apartment into the Millenium Falcon and wearing Jedi robes to jury duty. And it's possible to get through the Star Wars canon in a day so maybe it's seems easier to just be a casual fan.

 

[grace]

Ha! I'll belive TREK is more ''cooler'' then wars IF I see kids at the toy aisle at wal-mart buying the trek toys, rather then buying the umptength luke figure!

my introduction to Trek was my friend's massive action figure collection.

Troi, Janeway, and Spock shared the bridge. I was very confused when I started trying to watch the shows....

 

[Skywalker]

And it's possible to get through the Star Wars canon in a day so maybe it's seems easier to just be a casual fan.

Technically, everything in Star Wars is canon unless specifically labeled otherwise (such as the Infinities comics). It's not the same as in Trek, where only everything we see on screen is canon, and nothing else.

 

[miraclefan]

This year? Yes, yes it is.

Ha! I'll belive TREK is more ''cooler'' then wars IF I see kids at the toy aisle at wal-mart buying the trek toys, rather then buying the umptength luke figure!

I'll believe it if I see *kids* actually buying Trek toys.

Didn't I just say that?

 

[Mr. Adventure]

And it's possible to get through the Star Wars canon in a day so maybe it's seems easier to just be a casual fan.

Technically, everything in Star Wars is canon unless specifically labeled otherwise (such as the Infinities comics). It's not the same as in Trek, where only everything we see on screen is canon, and nothing else.

Sorry, I used the C-word, my bad. Basically, I mean you can get through the six movies and exclude stuff like Ewoks, Droids and The Holiday Special. With Trek, I mean the series and movies excluding TAS.

Books, comics, and video games don't count no matter what they tell you.

 

[grace]

*stabs Ewoks with fork*

grrrrrr

 

[miraclefan]

^You just keep on Stabing!

 

[grace]

damn Ewoks.

 

[Skywalker]

And it's possible to get through the Star Wars canon in a day so maybe it's seems easier to just be a casual fan.

Technically, everything in Star Wars is canon unless specifically labeled otherwise (such as the Infinities comics). It's not the same as in Trek, where only everything we see on screen is canon, and nothing else.

Sorry, I used the C-word, my bad. Basically, I mean you can get through the six movies and exclude stuff like Ewoks, Droids and The Holiday Special. With Trek, I mean the series and movies excluding TAS.

Ah, gotcha!

Books, comics, and video games don't count no matter what they tell you.

Haha! Yeah, there are a lot of ridiculous things in the Star Wars EU that I like to pretend never happened, but there's also a lot of really good stuff in there that I think is worthy of being considered canon.

 

[Gatekeeper]

For the record, I enjoy both franchises. That said, the new Star Trek film is facing some stiff competition at the box office — after all, doesn't Wolverine and Terminator open up on either side of it?

Short of circumstances beyond my control, I plan on seeing all three movies.

Gatekeeper

 

[Nerdius Maximus]

Star Wars was very unpopular from about 1987 to sometime in the early '90s, while Star Trek was thriving, so it could happen. And before someone says "Star Wars was ALWAYS popular!" Bullshit. No one cared about it for several years. There was a long stretch where nothing SW-related was being produced. No novels, no comics, nothing. It was next to impossible to track down copies of the movie on VHS for a time. People were constantly asking me, in amazement, "You still like STAR WARS?!?!" The Timothy Zahn novels generated a little hype, then we started seeing some video games, but the franchise was pretty much in the same state that Trek has been for the past few years. Then the special editions came out in the theaters, and that got a lot of hype, and all of a sudden it was "cool" again. By the time the Phantom Menace came out, people were coming out of the Star Wars closet.
I think the general public just got burned out on it. I mean, there was so much merchandising around the time of ROTJ that I think people just got sick of it. I didn't, but that's because I was a kid. Had I been older, I might have gotten sick of it, too.

 

[Skywalker]

I think I was at the perfect age when Star Wars started getting popular again. I was thirteen when the Special Editions hit theaters in '97. That's when I started to really get into SW. I'd seen the movies before on tape, of course, but nothing beats seeing them on the big screen--even if they were the SEs and not the originals.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

I was seven when the Special Editions hit. I became like... a friggin Star Wars maniac.

My childhood was mainly dominated by Star Trek and Star Wars, with my immense absorbtion of the canon and merchandising of both franchises. I found the middle way, and through it, geek enlightenment.

 

[Skywalker]

I was seven when the Special Editions hit.

Great, now I feel old.

 

[Jeyl]

Dang right Star Trek is cooler now than Star Wars.

Honestly, place your bets if you think the new Trek movie is going to out-gross the recent Clone Wars movie. Come on, I want to hear your words.

At least Star Trek is moving forward instead of being stuck in the infinite time loop that is the Clone Wars.

 

[Skywalker]

Going back a hundred years is moving forward?

I agree about the oversaturation of the Clone Wars era, though.