Why do people love''WARS'' more then''TREK''?

[c0rnedfr0g]

Star Wars tells a story, set in a universe. It is a classically old story of mythic proportions, told in a futuristic fashion, broken into 6 chapters.

Star Trek tells us about a universe through multiple stories. There are much more and a greater variety of stories.

The former is much easier for the general public to relate to.

 

[miraclefan]

Star Wars tells a story, set in a universe. It is a classically old story of mythic proportions, told in a futuristic fashion, broken into 6 chapters.

Star Trek tells us about a universe through multiple stories. There are much more and a greater variety of stories.

The former is much easier for the general public to relate to.

Simpler and much easier to understand, I thought as much! That's the general john Q public for ya!

 

[Captain X]

I don't believe this, this is a Star Trek bbs and star wars fans are putting you down. Stop being so TNG/enlightened/pacifist and get DS9 on their ass! Damn it there are some thing worth defending!!

I'd rather point and laugh at one nerd trying to run down other nerds because of what show they watch. I'm sorry, but dressing up as a stormtrooper is just as nerdy as dressing up as a Klingon, or anything else from either franchise. That's fine, especially at conversions where you're hanging out with your fellow nerds and having some fun, but no one should fool themselves into thinking they are in any way less nerdy, especially if they cosplay themselves.

 

[T'Bonz]

Why in god's name do the VAST majority of the viewing public love STAR WARS far more then TREK? I mean what the HELL? is it because ''WARS'' is just simpeler to understand? (good V evil) where as TREK makes you THINK? can somebody PLEASE tell me?

Because they're stupid?

All kidding aside, I think in many ways it's because Star Trek was more cerebral. One had humorous episodes, but often situations made one think. Many people don't want to think. They just want to relax or enjoy something uncomplicated.

Star Wars was a rollicking adventure. One just went along for the ride, no thought required. That's not necessarily a bad thing. People like me liked both, although I will confess that I only like old-school Star Wars. The newer three are rubbish.

 

[WillsBabe]

I have never seen or herd of hard core trekkies rasieing money for any charities of any kind.

What do you define as hardcore? Because I've known fans raise money for chartities for years and years and years. I was pretty hardcore in my day and I've helped raised thousands.

 

[john titor]

I don't believe this, this is a Star Trek bbs and star wars fans are putting you down. Stop being so TNG/enlightened/pacifist and get DS9 on their ass! Damn it there are some thing worth defending!!

I'd rather point and laugh at one nerd trying to run down other nerds because of what show they watch. I'm sorry, but dressing up as a stormtrooper is just as nerdy as dressing up as a Klingon, or anything else from either franchise. That's fine, especially at conversions where you're hanging out with your fellow nerds and having some fun, but no one should fool themselves into thinking they are in any way less nerdy, especially if they cosplay themselves.

Star Trek isn't nerdy where I'm from. If you have the privilege to wear a Star Fleet uniform you get all the girls and the guys want to be like you. Star Wars on the other hand is for losers.

 

[Aike]

Lucas is a much better marketer than Roddenberry ever was or Paramount is today.
He knows how to sell Star Wars.

 

[TEH BABA]

dune and nbg srae more complex action packed then either trek or wars. Tbonz is tpol your daughter?

 

[seigezunt]

Lucas is a much better marketer than Roddenberry ever was or Paramount is today.
He knows how to sell Star Wars.

This.

I loved the first 2 SW movies, but my God, the rest, especially the prequels have been utter crap.

 

[FarDreaming]

I think it has more to do with what stage you were in your life and what most spoke to you at that vulnerable time- what you were open to. I've always stayed with Trek, but at the time SW came out I had friends that switched from Trek to SW, and ones that were always SW fans, as well as friends that remained with Trek as I did.

 

[roguephoenix]

Why in god's name do the VAST majority of the viewing public love STAR WARS far more then TREK? I mean what the HELL? is it because ''WARS'' is just simpeler to understand? (good V evil) where as TREK makes you THINK? can somebody PLEASE tell me?

i have no idea either. it doesn't even make logical sense to me if i try to figure it out, and i have. i guess for the same reason that i won't get why people prefer reality shows over scripted shows.

of course the first 3 movies where they were trying to recover were acceptable, which i guess what set up the fandom for star wars. it had more struggle and drama while trek had campy stuff and william shatner. the latest 3 movies though were the ones that just made me go "what?" after finally seeing the way the jedi were defeated, i was actually rooting for the bad guys because at least they knew how to use their resources and abilities. jedi for the most part let themselves be rolled over.

 

[grace]

I've loved Star Wars as long as I can remember and didn't get really into Star Trek until, um, last week (*is ashamed*), but that's simply because I was introduced to SW as a child whereas whenever ST came on TV my parents went "ew!" and changed the channel (yeah I dunno). So with that, here's my take:

My experience is that Star Wars is more acceptable. somehow. like, the general public has this idea that to be a Star Trek fan you have to go totally all out and go to cons and learn Vulcan, whereas while there are Star Wars nutcases (I say this endearingly), you can also just like the movies. in an ordinary way. It's just gotten more mainstream.

I think this might have something to do with the fact that SW is such a... canon piece? I mean, it absolutely changed cinema, and there's kind of an idea that you have to see Star Wars in order to be a functioning adult. So I think there's simply more exposure, too. Whereas Star Trek has always been more cult...

also, it is much easier to watch all of Star Wars than to watch all of Star Trek.

Star Trek has Wesley.

This has never struck me as a good thing. Actually the fact that the first couple of episodes I saw were Wesley-centric kinda turned me off for a while...

'Star Wars' is samurai knights in space, whereas 'Star Trek' is a space western. I guess knights beat cowboys...

but cowboys have guns!

Star Wars has the E-woks
[...]
Ewoks
Ewoks
Ewoks

I believe you have it upon a key factor in the suckage of RotJ.




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[miraclefan]

Why in god's name do the VAST majority of the viewing public love STAR WARS far more then TREK? I mean what the HELL? is it because ''WARS'' is just simpeler to understand? (good V evil) where as TREK makes you THINK? can somebody PLEASE tell me?

Because they're stupid?

All kidding aside, I think in many ways it's because Star Trek was more cerebral. One had humorous episodes, but often situations made one think. Many people don't want to think. They just want to relax or enjoy something uncomplicated.

Star Wars was a rollicking adventure. One just went along for the ride, no thought required. That's not necessarily a bad thing. People like me liked both, although I will confess that I only like old-school Star Wars. The newer three are rubbish.

Why in god's name do the VAST majority of the viewing public love STAR WARS far more then TREK? I mean what the HELL? is it because ''WARS'' is just simpeler to understand? (good V evil) where as TREK makes you THINK? can somebody PLEASE tell me?

i have no idea either. it doesn't even make logical sense to me if i try to figure it out, and i have. i guess for the same reason that i won't get why people prefer reality shows over scripted shows.

of course the first 3 movies where they were trying to recover were acceptable, which i guess what set up the fandom for star wars. it had more struggle and drama while trek had campy stuff and william shatner. the latest 3 movies though were the ones that just made me go "what?" after finally seeing the way the jedi were defeated, i was actually rooting for the bad guys because at least they knew how to use their resources and abilities. jedi for the most part let themselves be rolled over.

THANK YOU! ''T'Bonz'' I agree with you! the last three WARS flicks were CRAP! & ''Phoenix'' I was rooting for the EMPIRE too! I mean, if the jedi are THIS incompetent, they deserve to be WIPED OUT!

 

[grace]

wait there was a new Star Wars trilogy?

lalalala

*lives in denial*

 

[miraclefan]

wait there was a new Star Wars trilogy?

lalalala

*lives in denial*

WARS fans have 2/6 (some would say) 3/6 good STAR WARS movies. At least us ''TREKIES'' have 3/5 GREAT series (I would like to say 4/5) and 5/10 great TREK films! Trek has Hundreds of great hours on record, but wars at best has 6 to 9 great hours on record!

 

[grace]

WARS fans have 2/6 (some would say) 3/6 good STAR WARS movies. At least us ''TREKIES'' have 3/5 GREAT series (I would like to say 4/5) and 5/10 great TREK films!

I will go with 2.5/3 on the movies.

just curious, which are the 3/5 or 4/5? (I've got the odd/even numbers thing down for the movies ) I realize this is common Trek knowledge but like I said, I'm new.

 

[miraclefan]

WARS fans have 2/6 (some would say) 3/6 good STAR WARS movies. At least us ''TREKIES'' have 3/5 GREAT series (I would like to say 4/5) and 5/10 great TREK films!

I will go with 2.5/3 on the movies.

just curious, which are the 3/5 or 4/5? (I've got the odd/even numbers thing down for the movies ) I realize this is common Trek knowledge but like I said, I'm new.

WHOOPS! forgive me I didn't know you were NEW to TREK! to clear things up for you the 3/5 or 4/5 refers to the differant series! Some would say that The Original Series, The Next Generation & DEEP SPACE NINE, were the 3 out of five best series! But there are some of us who would like to put the much ''hated'' ENTERPRISE on that list of GREAT trek series.

 

[miraclefan]

Oh and the one series that almost always ends up out of the greatest list is VOYAGER. The one with captain Janeway, The Doctor and 7of 9.

 

[grace]

WHOOPS! forgive me I didn't know you were NEW to TREK! to clear things up for you the 3/5 or 4/5 refers to the differant series! Some would say that The Original Series, The Next Generation & DEEP SPACE NINE, were the 3 out of five best series! But there are some of us who would like to put the much ''hated'' ENTERPRISE on that list of GREAT trek series.

yup. new.

ish. (I've seen a spattering over the years but I've just gotten really into it)

thanks!

 

[Navaros]

It's because movies/TV are a visual medium and visual mediums are for showing, not telling.

Star Wars does more showing, and Star Trek does more telling.