When did Vader find out Luke was his son?
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I haven't watched ROTJ all the way through for a while so I might've missed something but didn't Luke introduce himself to Jabba as a Jedi KNIGHT- not a master? He certainly wasn't a "master" by then- although he had matured quite a bit since ESB.
I corrected my post. Either way, I'm certain that becoming a Jedi Knight takes longer than six months.
Regardless of the scene with the storm troopers, C3PO is present with Vader when Han is frozen.
That's what I've always seen it listed as. It fits fine for me.
One thing I'm not too sure about is the time between Episodes III and IV. I believe, before the prequels were all released, it was commonly speculated that ANH was set 18 years after Episode III, but since then I've heard 19 years and 20 years thrown around as well. I guess it doesn't really make much of a difference, but I am kind of curious.
Given that he never heard him referred to as 3P0, and he was still in pieces at the time, and 3P0's design is standard for his droid type it's probable there wasn't enough to go on for Vader to make the connection.
Well, maybe back in the pre-Empire Jedi Order, yeah. I have no idea what the "rules" were about when a Jedi learner could become a "Knight" during the Empire era since the Jedi Order was virtually extinct except for Obi-Wan Kenobi and Yoda. Luke had already had some training from Yoda, of course, in ESB (although we don't know exactly how long he was on Dagobah) and, per SOTE, he returned to Obi-Wan's home on Tatooine where he learned more about the Jedi and constructed his new green Lightsaber, supposedly one of the "steps" towards becoming a Jedi. At any rate, how else might Luke have introduced himself to Jabba- if the goal was, presumably, to try to intimidate him a little bit? A Jedi learner? Padawan?
Canon states that there are nineteen years between ROTS and ANH. These are the canonical years for each of the movies:
Episode I: 32 BBY (Before the Battle of Yavin)
Episode II: 22 BBY
Episode III: 19 BBY
Episode IV: 0
Episode V: 3 ABY (After the Battle of Yavin)
Episode VI: 4 ABY
I hate that they use the Battle of Yavin as the turning point in galactic history. The Battle of Endor makes far more sense.
Given that all of Luke's training happens within Empire, it apparently only takes about four days.
And Luke went through so much training in that scene?
It was like in Dark City.
Actually, I heard an argument once that the scenes in TESB were drawn out over a much longer period (several weeks, if not months).
Which would make sense, since the Millennium Falcon had to travel from Hoth to Bespin with a damaged hyperdrive. Maybe they couldn't reach their maximum speed, so it took a while to get there.
This is a much more realistic explanation. It seems that sometimes viewers tend to miss subtle queues about the passage of time in a movie and confuse it with the running time.
I highly doubt it, because in ROTJ he asks if Vader is really his father. Doesn't seem like something he'd have put off.
