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Do they really read the source materials?

Thespeckledkiwi

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It seems this is the popular thing to do. Actors, actresses, writers, producers say they read and research the movie they are trying to produce, to act in, to recreate but do they really read it or study it or do they just say that to get people interested and think, hey this guy knows what the hell he's talking about?
 
How can that question possibly be answered as phrased? It's not like every actor on the planet behaves in the exact same way. Surely there are plenty of actors who do the research and surely there are others who don't.
 
How can that question possibly be answered as phrased? It's not like every actor on the planet behaves in the exact same way. Surely there are plenty of actors who do the research and surely there are others who don't.

Well you look at Michael Bay, Chris Nolan and such. I have serious doubt that Bay has even touched anything remotely Transformer since picking up the franchise. Nolan on the other hand seems to have done some good research for the Batman franchise. Same with Ledger and the Joker. Same with GI Joe. And the Wolverine movie.

I am curious about this because of the new Cowboy Bebop movie coming out as well.
 
Well you look at Michael Bay, Chris Nolan and such. I have serious doubt that Bay has even touched anything remotely Transformer since picking up the franchise.

Michael Bay quote :

"I wasn't a fan of Transformers, wasn't the right age to have been caught up in it.
Hasbro sent me through Transformers school to learn all the characters and stories. I met with the writers."

Have you heard about that Transformers school? I really thought, 'What the fuck am I going to Hasbro for Transformers school?' I thought I was going to learn how to fold up robots, but I met with the CEO and I went through the whole Transformer lore.
Anyway, I agree 100% with what Christopher says above
 
I'm bothered a lot more by script writers/editors who adapt from books and yet produce final products that look nothing like the source material. I get seriously nervous and upset whenever I hear they want to adapt one of the classic scifi novels to the big screen. After all, I've seen The Puppet Masters and Starship Troopers...
 
I remember hearing that Ian McKellan brought a copy of LotR with him to the set to back up any arguments with PJ, and that Christopher Lee re-reads it every year lol...
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Well you look at Michael Bay, Chris Nolan and such. I have serious doubt that Bay has even touched anything remotely Transformer since picking up the franchise. Nolan on the other hand seems to have done some good research for the Batman franchise. Same with Ledger and the Joker. Same with GI Joe. And the Wolverine movie.

Exactly my point. If you yourself are aware that some filmmakers do the research and others don't, why in the world would you even ask the question the way you did, as if the same answer would apply to all filmmakers equally? I don't understand what your purpose was in starting this thread. If you have a problem with Michael Bay, why not complain specifically about him? Why try to paint every filmmaker in existence with a single brush?
 
I'm bothered a lot more by script writers/editors who adapt from books and yet produce final products that look nothing like the source material. I get seriously nervous and upset whenever I hear they want to adapt one of the classic scifi novels to the big screen. After all, I've seen The Puppet Masters and Starship Troopers...
HEY! I LOVED STARSHIP TROOPERS!:techman: and yes I have read the book!
 
I do not believe that the makers of Starship Troopers ever read the book. Without powered armor it is not Starship Troopers.
 
Well you look at Michael Bay, Chris Nolan and such. I have serious doubt that Bay has even touched anything remotely Transformer since picking up the franchise.

Who cares whether he did or not? Its not up to him to sort out the lore - its up to the script writers and ultimately, to Hasbro and it worked out pretty well. There's nothing in Bay's Transformers that doesn't fit with how I understand the Transformers multiverse.
 
I do not believe that the makers of Starship Troopers ever read the book. Without powered armor it is not Starship Troopers.

The Verhoeven movie wasn't even going to be Starship Troopers at first, it was going to be a parody of those kinds of films but they changed the title.
 
I'm bothered a lot more by script writers/editors who adapt from books and yet produce final products that look nothing like the source material. I get seriously nervous and upset whenever I hear they want to adapt one of the classic scifi novels to the big screen. After all, I've seen The Puppet Masters and Starship Troopers...
HEY! I LOVED STARSHIP TROOPERS!:techman: and yes I have read the book!

Never said I didn't enjoy it-but it's pretty far from the source. My fear is some clown in Hollywood will discover A Canticle For Leibowitz or The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress and try to make a movie out of it. I heard what happened to Nightfall some years ago...
 
It seems this is the popular thing to do. Actors, actresses, writers, producers say they read and research the movie they are trying to produce, to act in, to recreate but do they really read it or study it or do they just say that to get people interested and think, hey this guy knows what the hell he's talking about?

In Dragon Ball Evolution, they pronounced Son Gohan, Son Gohaen.

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That's a big fat NOOOO!
 
I do not believe that the makers of Starship Troopers ever read the book. Without powered armor it is not Starship Troopers.

The Verhoeven movie wasn't even going to be Starship Troopers at first, it was going to be a parody of those kinds of films but they changed the title.
If they are not going to use his story they shouldn't try to leech off of his hard work by using his title to fool fans of the book to watch their garbage.
 
Tell that to Demi Moore and her "Scarlett Letter" (you know, the one that was made of golden thread on her dress?)
 
I call bullshit on that one or Hasbro doesn't know their own industry. Either or.

Transformers is rather diverse in continuity at the moment with the box specs (which are their own continuity), the G1 cartoon (which has very little continuity), the Marvel G1 comics, the Japanese G1 cartoon, the British Marvel G1 comics, the G1 manga, the Marvel G2 comics, the Beast Wars cartoon, the Japanese Beast Wars cartoon, Convention Beast Wars comics, Dreamwave Beast Wars comics, IDW Beast Wars comics, Dreamwave G1 comics, IDW G1 comics, Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise cartoon, Japanese Car Robot cartoon, Armada/Energon/Cybertron, Japanese Armada/Energon, Japanese Cybertron, Dreamwave Armada/Energon/Cybertron, IDW Armada/Energon/Cybertron, Alternators, Binaltech, Kiss Players, Hearts of Steel, Animated.

I'm pretty sure that I'm leaving something out.

There is plenty of wiggle-room there.
 
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Some times they say "I read up on it" and they mean they literally devoted an afternoon to looking it up online.

Then you've got like, the Lord of the Rings people, who actually read EVERYTHING about the books all the time, used it as their Bible, and even if they changed something, had a quote from the book to justify WHY they had changed it, for every change they made. They did their homework.
 
Some times they say "I read up on it" and they mean they literally devoted an afternoon to looking it up online.

Then you've got like, the Lord of the Rings people, who actually read EVERYTHING about the books all the time, used it as their Bible, and even if they changed something, had a quote from the book to justify WHY they had changed it, for every change they made. They did their homework.
Exactly my point. They might say they research it but do they really?
 
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