A new theory on how the pyramid's were built.
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All Seeing Eye
Admiral
The pyramids were landing platforms for the alien space craft of the Nephillim (sp?)
^^^ Actually, they were probably designed by the Elohim of Nibiru during their last trip into our region of the solar system. The Nephilim were the byproduct of Seraphim and human offspring and were considered lowly giant half-breed brutes. I believe Goliath was one.
I think all the joints between blocks would make any sort of sonar/ultrasound/vibration imaging such a jumble it would be useless.
X-rays strong enough to do anything would be dangerous, and would lack contrast because of similar densities in the blocks. It's because bones block the radiation so much better than muscle that x-rays are useful for things like broken bones, but high tech imaging is needed for many soft tissue problems.
The additional labor necessary for external ramps make me skeptical about that method. Pyramids are a derivative of an earlier VIP tomb tradition of stacked platforms, and I don't see where internal ramps are particularly compatible with that.
I have seen another theory that involved multiple levers, ropes and cribbing. Stones can be raised a few inches at a time with levers pulling two knotted ropes looped under the stone. The ends of adjacent blocks serve as fulcrums. Once the stone is raised a few inches a layer of wood cribbing is inserted under the stone. The levers are then repositioned to use the next set of knots in the ropes. When raised enough rollers are used to shift the stone onto the adjacent stones and to another section of the platform. The documentary that demonstrated the technique indicated that a experienced crew of around sixteen men could raise a stone about the size of most of the pyramid stones its own height in about twenty minutes.
X-rays strong enough to do anything would be dangerous, and would lack contrast because of similar densities in the blocks. It's because bones block the radiation so much better than muscle that x-rays are useful for things like broken bones, but high tech imaging is needed for many soft tissue problems.
The additional labor necessary for external ramps make me skeptical about that method. Pyramids are a derivative of an earlier VIP tomb tradition of stacked platforms, and I don't see where internal ramps are particularly compatible with that.
I have seen another theory that involved multiple levers, ropes and cribbing. Stones can be raised a few inches at a time with levers pulling two knotted ropes looped under the stone. The ends of adjacent blocks serve as fulcrums. Once the stone is raised a few inches a layer of wood cribbing is inserted under the stone. The levers are then repositioned to use the next set of knots in the ropes. When raised enough rollers are used to shift the stone onto the adjacent stones and to another section of the platform. The documentary that demonstrated the technique indicated that a experienced crew of around sixteen men could raise a stone about the size of most of the pyramid stones its own height in about twenty minutes.
I think they just used sheer manpower and made it, but us humans nowadays dont want to believe that "primitive" people are able to make something like the Pyramids and we cant so we invent stupid reason like "aliens" or "lost secrets" crap.
A compelling argument is made in that film. I think it indicates a distinct possibility this guy might be on to something.
How to find out? Well, not to put too fine a point on it but Egypt is littered with DOZENS of pyramids. Some are in very good shape and some are near ruins. Pick one of the lesser pyramids that seems likely to have a similar pedigree to the Great Pyramids and dismantle it. I'm NOT suggesting tearing it down. DE-construct it and RE-construct on the same spot, using the EXACT same materials. Even number the blocks as they come out to make certain they go back in the proper order and place. Crack one of those puppies open and see what can be found. It can be done with respect and care and it might be revealing. Frankly, given the curiosity over how the pyramids were constructed over the generations, I'm rather surprised no one has done this before--especially when there was much less regard for the sanctity of antiquities. After all, if I remember correctly, access to the Great Pyramid was originally obtained by explorers pouring boiling vinegar on the stone, then dumping cold water on it to crack the material and they just burrowed like moles until the happened to hit a passage way.
How to find out? Well, not to put too fine a point on it but Egypt is littered with DOZENS of pyramids. Some are in very good shape and some are near ruins. Pick one of the lesser pyramids that seems likely to have a similar pedigree to the Great Pyramids and dismantle it. I'm NOT suggesting tearing it down. DE-construct it and RE-construct on the same spot, using the EXACT same materials. Even number the blocks as they come out to make certain they go back in the proper order and place. Crack one of those puppies open and see what can be found. It can be done with respect and care and it might be revealing. Frankly, given the curiosity over how the pyramids were constructed over the generations, I'm rather surprised no one has done this before--especially when there was much less regard for the sanctity of antiquities. After all, if I remember correctly, access to the Great Pyramid was originally obtained by explorers pouring boiling vinegar on the stone, then dumping cold water on it to crack the material and they just burrowed like moles until the happened to hit a passage way.
I suspect that the Egyptians may have backfilled the internal ramp after topping off the Great Pyramid. There does seem to be a spiral shadow in the density scan, but a hollow internal passage may no longer exist. The temple that seemed to have been constructed with an internal ramp was a good piece of evidence, but it was only suggestive that the pyramid builders may have used the technique. I would like to see more soundings made on the Great Pyramid with more modern equipment.
We can, it's just that we're too lazy to do so. Regardless of the existence of a ramp or not, the basic techniques required to build a megastructure with ancient materials and technologies are simple and have been well-understood since those ancient times. The problem is one of manpower and willpower, not of technology.
One thing we forget is that there were scientists, engineers, and mathmaticians back then, as their are now. While they didn't have the benefit of the scientific method, they did produce a great body of knowledge which served as a foundation for generations and civilizations that followed them and which they applied to produce long-lasting wonders that remain impressive even today.
And let us also not forget that the pyramids, while impressive in size, are big piles of rocks. Dump any rocks in a heap and they'll tend to form a slope-sided shape with the point at the top. There's nothing particularly impressive about the design or engineering of the things; they've just persisted this long because they're in a minimum-energy configuration.
Remember, all modern attemps at building pyramids to 'prove' how it was done have failed! Even when just building small scale replicas, with smaller stones, modern construction equipment had to be brought in to finish the task. And this fact is conveniantly ignored by the "experts". So, if we can't even build a small one w/out our modern technology, how are we supposed to believe the Dynastic Egyptians (or whoever) could build the great pyramids, without conceding that they knew something we don't, and that we're not giving them credit for? So much for "experimental analysis" being the final arbiter in discovering scientific "truth"!
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If you ignore the engineering required to fit rooms in them and not have them collapse.
That's a fair enough observation, but my basic point was that many proponents of outlandish construction theories--especially the aliens/Atlantis/other magic schools of thought--seriously overestimate the difficulty in engineering such structures. They may be hard, but not beyond the means of dedicated people with levers and a lot of time on their hands.
And it's fair to say, you've seriously underestimated the difficulty in engineering such structures, see my post above. We may not be able to prove how the great pyramids were built, but we can, and have effectivaly proven how they were not! Simply adding more "slaves" and time to the equation just makes the logistics of the feat all the more complicated and impossible. To maintain support for a theory that stands in clear contridiction to established facts, as the "experts" continue to do, is to support a "magical school of thought" indeed!
Or hot air balloons, to lift blocks into place, there's a lot of possibilities to consider, we just have to be open to them all.
MeanJoePhaser
Admiral
They weren't built, the stones were already there, the Egyptians just removed the dirt between them and around them. Maybe did some chiseling.
Plecostomus
Commodore
I however can. Not only that but I can go into extremely painful levels of mind-shattering detail.
Also: I can set up and run said machines.
