World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

[RJDiogenes]

I think the architect of nuBSG...was simply too bored with Star Trek, thematically, to have any interest in being creative in that arena.

I would hope so - anyone who can create something as novel and interesting as nuBSG would be spinning their wheels managing the nth Star Trek series set in the 2nth century aboard the NCC-1701-n... It would be a step down and back for Moore at this point.

Right, because a pretentiously adolescent military drama that claims to be sci fi yet aggressively eschews imaginative elements in favor of anachronistic mainstream props and fashions, and introduces such novel and interesting innovations as shoddy camera work, doctors blowing smoke in the faces of pregnant women and starship commanders puking all over themselves is far superior to your daddy's Trek.

Somebody whose talents lie in the areas of writing rather than used-car salesmanship could easily find interesting stories to tell in the Trek Universe.

But that's another Topic for another Thread....

 

[the quickening]

There is no way I believe that destroying Vulcan, or doing the gimmick of an alternate timeline/universe was the only way to do a new TREK film, the best way to do a new TREK film, or the necessary way to do a new TREK film.

These people have probably done the most faithful reworking of Star Trek we could have gotten out of Paramount's determination to rebuild their dying franchise - if you've read about the research they did on Trek's international reputation and performance, for example, before getting into this you'll have a pretty clear idea of where the studio's priorities are. It's really hard to believe that they would have greenlit anything more traditional than this, and you're just lucky Abrams didn't pass on it - Paramount's having good luck with Michael Bay, these days.

You said "probably", so at least you are honest enough not to make the claim that going with the alternate universe mumbo-jumbo was the only direction they could have gone--which I just don't buy at all. There were plenty of stories to tell in the prime universe. All it took was to finally make a full commitment--putting the necessary money up and hiring talented people--something they hadn't done in quite a while. Problem is, they hired TREK geeks--who apparently have come up with yet another TNG-like time, plot contrivance. Sorry, don't mean to be cruel, I just don't like alternate reality stories. All stories, no matter the medium, are already in an alternate reality, hence, to me, alternate reality stories are contrived stories times two. This was the same reason TREK hologram stories bugged me as well. Just a personal reaction. As of now, I'll just wait for my Redbox rental or maybe the dollar show.

 

[darkwing_duck1]

These people have probably done the most faithful reworking of Star Trek we could have gotten out of Paramount's determination to rebuild their dying franchise - if you've read about the research they did on Trek's international reputation and performance, for example, before getting into this you'll have a pretty clear idea of where the studio's priorities are. It's really hard to believe that they would have greenlit anything more traditional than this, and you're just lucky Abrams didn't pass on it - Paramount's having good luck with Michael Bay, these days.

Dennis, is there any source online that I could read up on this from? (Honestly curious)

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

You said "probably", so at least you are honest enough not to make the claim ..

I said "probably" because I know better (sometimes) than to speak with certainty about things which have not occurred. I will say that I read most of the posts here on the topic of this movie and I have yet to see anyone here or elsewhere propose an alternate approach or a "better way" that doesn't read to me like real loser of an idea commercially.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Right, because a pretentiously adolescent military drama...

I couldn't say - I watched Moore's BSG, not your truculent and incompetently constructed attempt to summarize it.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

... I have yet to see anyone here or elsewhere propose an alternate approach or a "better way" that doesn't read to me like real loser of an idea commercially.

Or one that only pandered to fanish expectations, resulting in a product that would be "more of the same."

 

[RJDiogenes]

Right, because a pretentiously adolescent military drama...

I couldn't say - I watched Moore's BSG, not your truculent and incompetently constructed attempt to summarize it.

Then perhaps you live in an alternate universe already, since everything I mentioned comes directly from the show.

 

[THE CHEBB]

Back to the spoilers....does Chekov die?

 

[GMDreia]

How will the timeline being changed, affect the rest of the franchise (the novels, etc.)?

 

[number6]

Back to the spoilers....does Chekov die?

More importantly...does he scream??

 

[NiteTrek]

Ok...I'll ask again...maybe one question at a time would be better...

Are the waitress stations/barcode scanners explained? If so, what is the explanation?

 

[Timo47]

1) Are the 800 people that George Kirk saves all from the Kelvin?

2) Does it mention how many crew members are aboard the Enterprise?

3) Are there any other Starships seen or mentioned which are the same class as the Enterprise?

4) Do we get to see the shuttlebay of the Enterprise and any shuttles entering/leaving?

5) Are the barcode scanners at the waitress stations explained in any way? For that matter, what exactly is the purpose of the waitress stations on the bridge?

1) Yes.
2) Don't recall a number being given.
3) None are mentioned and unless they were in the background somewhere I saw only the Enterprise.
4) Yes, there's a scene where you can clearly look into the shuttlebay. Looked quite good.
5) No explanation is given for anything on the bridge. The only "prop" on the bridge you see in action is Sulu's accelerator/throttle.

 

[EJA]

Is this Delta Vega planet in the movie supposed to be the same as the one in Where No Man Has Gone Before? Cos in that episode it was located near the galaxy's edge; any indication of its location here?

 

[Timo47]

Is this Delta Vega planet in the movie supposed to be the same as the one in Where No Man Has Gone Before? Cos in that episode it was located near the galaxy's edge; any indication of its location here?

I'm curious why the planet in this movie was called Delta Vega. It doesn't resemble the one in Where No Man Has Gone Before and it's location is nowhere near the galaxy's edge. In fact, it's located near another very familiar planet. I'll put the rest in spoiler code.

Spoiler: location of Delta Vega

Nero drops Prime Spock on Delta Vega so that he can witness Vulcan's destruction.

 

[Timo47]

Back to the spoilers....does Chekov die?

More importantly...does he scream??

Pine does not play Kirk as Shatner did, Zoe plays Uhura more as a 'tough girl', and Scotty is much more comic relief then he ever was. Still, I had no problems with any of these performances, they were all close enough to the characters we have known for so long. Except for Chekov. Everytime he opened his mouth, it grated on my nerves. The Russian accent used for Chekov belongs in a parody such as Galaxy Quest. It's unfortunate really, because other than the accent, Anton Yelchin was good choice for the role.

 

[Kelso]

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Is this Delta Vega planet in the movie supposed to be the same as the one in Where No Man Has Gone Before? Cos in that episode it was located near the galaxy's edge; any indication of its location here?

I'm curious why the planet in this movie was called Delta Vega. It doesn't resemble the one in Where No Man Has Gone Before and it's location is nowhere near the galaxy's edge. In fact, it's located near another very familiar planet. I'll put the rest in spoiler code.

Spoiler: location of Delta Vega

Nero drops Prime Spock on Delta Vega so that he can witness Vulcan's destruction.

I hope he was given a pair of binoculars, at least!


Is the planet called Delta Vega onscreen?


Also, someone asked but I didn't see an answer... does Chekov die?

 

[AaronMorse]

So Dr McCoy mentions Andorian Shingles in the online clips, but do you know if they actually "show" an Andorian in the new movie?

 

[Timo47]

The number of aliens is fairly limited in this movie. I didn't spot any Andorians.

No, Chekov does not die.

 

[Kokomo]

What happens to Spock Prime at the end of the movie? Does he die?

 

[THE CHEBB]

The number of aliens is fairly limited in this movie. I didn't spot any Andorians.

No, Chekov does not die.

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