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The "Chuck Cunningham" Syndrome

Moira Kelly's character in the first season of "The West Wing" comes to mind. She's there for the cliffhanger season finale but completely vanishes in season two without any explanation that I remember.

She was sent to Mandyville. IIRC, she wasn't the only one over the years either.
 
Then there's the case of "My Three Sons", where oldest brother Mike was written out, and a new, younger brother, Chip, was "adopted" so that the show's title would still make sense.
Chip was always there. Ernie was the friend of Chip, who was adopted after Mike left.
 
M*A*S*H was notorious for that kind of stuff.

Originally, Hawkeye had a wife back stateside, Mary Pierce. She mysteriously disappeared halfway thru the first season,

Err....what episode are you referring to? I've seen every episode of the first three season a billion times, and I can assure you there is no Mrs. Hawkeye Pierce mentioned (except when he lies during Ceasefire to get out of post-war commitment)

and confirmed bachelor Trapper John suddenly gained a stateside wife.

Trapper gets a letter, specifically from his wife, in the pilot of the show. "Bad news....my wife still loves me."

Methinks you are remembering things wrong here. :wtf:

The idea there being that the network objected to the main character being unfaithful, but didn't much care if a secondary character exhibited such character flaws. And the show's producers and writers felt it was important to deal with the issue of war-time infidelity, so the swap in marital status between Hawkeye and Trapper seemed the obvious solution.

From the movie to the show? Sure. But, not within the confines of the show itself.

Unfortunately, at around the same time, a number of other radical changes were made, with central characters from the book and film version suddenly being dropped from the television version. Duke, Spearchucker Jones, and Painless Pole all disappeared without a trace, without explanation, and were never comment on again.

Yes, see the above posts concerning Painless, Ugly John, Duke, and Spearchucker...
 
Moira Kelly's character in the first season of "The West Wing" comes to mind. She's there for the cliffhanger season finale but completely vanishes in season two without any explanation that I remember.

Ah good one! I had forgotten about her! :techman:
 
Is there a term for shows like MASH where the show lasts longer than the event it supposedly takes place around?

Are there any other shows fitting that category?


There are a couple of british ones:

Allo Allo - set in occupied France, ran for ten years.

Dad's Army - Home Guard unit in WW2, ran for nine years.

It ain't half hot mum - WW2 again, ran for seven years.

(all of those were by the same writer).

In addition

Heartbeat
- A police drama set in the 1960s. This one is a bit odd, when it started, the year was suppose to be 1964 and as every series was broadcast it broadly moved on a year, then when it got to 1969, it stopped there forever! The show has been running for 17 years.
 
Also, in another thread, someone mentioned Hawkeye's "sister" in an early episode of M*A*S*H, but later Hawkeye was suddenly an only child.

It's in a "Dear Dad" episode, I think. And I don't know if it's the same "Dear Dad" or a different one, but Hawkeye also tells his father to "say hi to Mom," who is later established to have been dead since Hawkeye's very early childhood.

As chardman says, though, M*A*S*H has a lot of those. Henry Blake's wife Lorraine is called "Mildred" in one episode (Mildred, of course, was later the name of Colonel Potter's wife).

Is there a term for shows like MASH where the show lasts longer than the event it supposedly takes place around?

Are there any other shows fitting that category?

That 70s Show, for one. The series started, I believe, in 1976 (IIRC, the gang goes to see Star Wars at the end of the first season). However, the show ran for eight seasons, and, although I didn't see it, from what I hear the series finale sees the characters ring in the New Year on December 31, 1979.

It gets even more confusing when each season is pretty much treated like an entire year in the characters' lives.

Hogan's Heroes is another one: it was on the air for seven years (six seasons), although American involvement in WWII actually lasted less than four years.
 
You have to remember on early TV that "a year of real time" matching "a season" didn't exist until the late's 70's. So equating that way doesn't follow. Hogan's Heroes just took place during the war. It was never meant to be a "one season=one year" kind of thing.

That was virtually unheard of back then and never really developed as a regular thing until the 1980's and 90's. Even now it's the minority approach in serial television.

As for M*A*S*H, Spearchucker and Ugly John were dropped because there were just too many characters to follow, and it diluted story and character focus. The formula that worked in the Robert Altman "overlap style" of the film didn't transfer to weekly television.

Gelbart and Reynolds just kept developing the show in its first season. They saw what worked and what didn't, and made the changes accordingly until they found a format and cast list they felt worked.

--Ted
 
M*A*S*H was notorious for that kind of stuff.

Originally, Hawkeye had a wife back stateside, Mary Pierce. She mysteriously disappeared halfway thru the first season,
Err....what episode are you referring to? I've seen every episode of the first three season a billion times, and I can assure you there is no Mrs. Hawkeye Pierce mentioned (except when he lies during Ceasefire to get out of post-war commitment
Sounds like a mix-up. I only remember the versions in the book and the movie to be married but not TV Hawkeye.
 
IIRC virtually all those initial episodes originally ended with Hawkeye's letter to Big Benji Pierce (his Dad), which I gather was originally intended as a regular per episode epilogue, (like Mork's weekly reports to Orson). This was quickly dropped as a regular episode closer. Moreover, I don't remember seeing these epilogues ever repeated in syndicated reruns. I'm going to assume that these epilogues were cut both for time and consistency prior to syndication. (Anyone else remember this, or am I having a "senior moment"?)

That said, perhaps the references to Mary Pierce that I remember were in these now deleted epilogues?
 
I've always had a sneaking suspicion that Chuck Cunningham came out as gay and it was too much for the sensibilities of his 1950's family and so he was disowned.
 
IIRC virtually all those initial episodes originally ended with Hawkeye's letter to Big Benji Pierce (his Dad), which I gather was originally intended as a regular per episode epilogue, (like Mork's weekly reports to Orson). This was quickly dropped as a regular episode closer. Moreover, I don't remember seeing these epilogues ever repeated in syndicated reruns. I'm going to assume that these epilogues were cut both for time and consistency prior to syndication. (Anyone else remember this, or am I having a "senior moment"?)

That said, perhaps the references to Mary Pierce that I remember were in these now deleted epilogues?

There were annual "Dear Dad" episodes, where Hawkeye narrates the episode in a letter to his father, but it wasn't an episodic thing. They later adapted the format for the other characters, as well.

I think you are getting different television series mixed up... ;)
 
One of the sons in Step by Step (IIRC, the father's) dissapeared mid-way though the show. Not sure if there was an explaination for it.
 
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