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World Premiere/Advance screening discussions [SPOILERS GUARANTEED]

So, Uhura is Spock's love interest. Didn't everyone kind of roll their eyes at the relationship between Uhura and Scotty in TTF? Isn't this kind of the same? I don't know, just throwing it out there. It has the same "why?" factor.
 
Yeah, this is it, exactly. If Spock becomes all human, he loses his duality and his inner conflict. That will definitely make him less interesting. Also, the dynamic between him and McCoy will change - they were supposed to be the two opposite forces affecting Kirk, one very emotional, one very logical... It will change everything, and I don't think in a positive way.

I think the events of this movie, the destruction of Vulcan, the death of Amanda, would have to leave us with a very different Spock than we saw in TOS. And will also have to redefine the relationships he had with some of the characters, especially McCoy, who has always been portrayed as the "heart" of the trio. One cannot be the heart and not realize that no matter how stoic or inward Spock may turn, this is now a character that has great tragedies befall him, one that we know that the original Spock never had to deal with.
 
We don't know much about early Spock or how he handled his double heritage.
We do know he laughed and smiled and he was shouting "THE WOMEN" and was different from the later era dude.
Perhaps JJ ABRAMS chose to do something cool and creative with that?
 
Perhaps. I just did not find the huggy/kissy transporter room scene that cool or creative. :rommie:
 
We don't know much about early Spock or how he handled his double heritage.
We do know he laughed and smiled and he was shouting "THE WOMEN" and was different from the later era dude.
Perhaps JJ ABRAMS chose to do something cool and creative with that?

Plus in Where No Man Has Gone Before he was smiling and seemed to be taking enjoyment from what I think was beating Kirk at Chess, and then had an annoyed expression when Kirk pulled off some 3D chess move that craped on Spock's winning.
 
Other cons I had:

* The Spock / Uhura thing. Does not work for me. Is not believable for me. A shame, since otherwise Spock was quite good. Quinto had excellent small touches - straightening his uniform, moving in a certain way.
Yes, after a day of thinking about the movie, this itches a bit! Just a tiny little bit ;)

* The small "cute" alien Scotty had with him. I hope they kill him off before the next movie. We don't need any cutesy funny little critters on the Enterprise, and if we do, they better be tribbles.
Which reminds me: there were tribbles where they found Scotty ;) I didn't see them (it was too fast) but I did hear them.

And of course the Urban & Cho singing performance before the film was wonderful too. :guffaw:
Silly me, I forgot to mention the best bit! :D

OK, I'll say this, then run and hide in case people want to throw things. But I'm dead serious.

So, Nimoy does the, "Space, the final frontier..." thing at the end of the movie. I know Shatner doesn't "do cameos," but how KEWL would it have been if the movie ended with HIM saying those words. No warning. No appearance by him anywhere else in the film. Just those words.
That could've been a moment. Seriously.
Don't run, I agree with you, they could. But he said that so many times, he could let Leonard say it once ;) (or was it the second time?)

Yeah, this is it, exactly. If Spock becomes all human, he loses his duality and his inner conflict. That will definitely make him less interesting. Also, the dynamic between him and McCoy will change - they were supposed to be the two opposite forces affecting Kirk, one very emotional, one very logical... It will change everything, and I don't think in a positive way.
Let's hope he'll dismiss his counterpart's counsel.



Now, about the villains, were they made that dull so there would be more screen time for our heroes? Somehow, I think it was done intentionaly so the villains only existed to have some kind of menace in the story.

That said, I expect a sequel of a much better quality.

Now you all can throw things at me because I completely forgot Majel did the computer voice and I didn't recognise her voice :(
 
OK, I'll say this, then run and hide in case people want to throw things. But I'm dead serious.

So, Nimoy does the, "Space, the final frontier..." thing at the end of the movie. I know Shatner doesn't "do cameos," but how KEWL would it have been if the movie ended with HIM saying those words. No warning. No appearance by him anywhere else in the film. Just those words.
That could've been a moment. Seriously.

Don't run, I agree with you, they could. But he said that so many times, he could let Leonard say it once ;) (or was it the second time?)

Yeah, second. He ended TWOK with it. Maybe it should've actually been Pine. By the end of the movie, people would've recognized that it was his (Kirk's) voice. That would've been a true hand-off.
 
I did not like the Spock/Uhura-thing either.

But then, it may have something to do with the fact that I liked Uhura least of all. I think part of it is that she doesn't even remotely look like Nichelle Nichols, part of it is the writing. Nichelle's Uhura always had a heart of gold and a sense of humor - she was a deeply humane character, with artistic interests in addition to being a top-notch communications officer. Saldana's Uhura seems to be mostly a calculating career woman.
 
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Please review TrekBBS policy concerning posting of images. (And weren't you advised to cool it with the thread bombs, anyway?)

Unless there's a rule there I can't see that says "no image macros", then my posting is within the rules that are posted there, as all my macros are from my own photobucket account. I'm also hardly the only one to use them.
 
Re: Moved to spoilers discussion thread

"The flick starts out with a bang as the USS Kelvin is attacked by a giant Romulan ship that appears out of a black hole. The ship is almost instantly crippled, the Captain summoned by Nero, the movie’s villain who is searching for Spock. When the Captain leaves, he promotes a young man named George Kirk to captain the ship."

"Young Kirk honorably runs the ship, successfully evacuating everybody before it is destroyed, including his wife, in the middle of giving birth. It’s actually a very touching scene, about as perfectly effecting and emotional as I could have hoped for."

"It also kicks off the real split between this universe and the Trek universe we all know. Without any cop-outs, Abrams and his team establish that with this single event everything has changed. In short, it’s the perfect set up for a reboot. It can (and does, with Nimoy’s appearance as Spock Prime, as he’s listed in the credits) respect the originals while being free to do its own thing."

"Everything we have seen still exists, just not in this reality. I think it’s pretty genius, actually, but only if they stick to this universe now. I’d hate to see them go back and forth with the existing Trek reality and this one in further sequels. I like the world (or maybe universe is a better term considering the material) that Abrams and his team has created here. I like the cast he assembled, I like the way this new universe turns some old Trek landmarks on their heads, while keeping true to what’s really important to each character."


http://www.aintitcool.com/node/40675

Or it sets ups star trek 12 with a whole reason to have a conflict to fight and fix the univers and save vulcan and amanda.

Seriously, where is "amok time" going to happen? The whole tpau meeting kirk. We finally get an interesting back story about her and now we have no back story.

It is kind of like rewriting romeo and juliet without the family fued.
 
Re: Moved to spoilers discussion thread

Seriously, where is "amok time" going to happen? The whole tpau meeting kirk. We finally get an interesting back story about her and now we have no back story.

It is kind of like rewriting romeo and juliet without the family fued.
I really don't want to revisit old episodes. I hope they'll do the censored stuff and more :techman:
 
Re: Moved to spoilers discussion thread

Seriously, where is "amok time" going to happen?

Probably never. T'Pau is almost certainly dead, and probably T'Pring and Stonn as well. I don't see any of those people as the type who would ever leave Vulcan. So they must be toast. :(
 
Amok Time happened in Old-Spock's past- it doesn't have to happen in New-Spock's future.

Folks may do well to stop thinking of this film as a prequel.
 
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