Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars [may contain some minor spoilers]

[Devon]

Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars
http://www.empireonline.com/reviews/reviewcomplete.asp?FID=134061
http://www.sfx.co.uk/page/sfx?entry=film_review_star_trek

 

[Akiraprise]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

Are there spoilers in this review?

All review comments of the advance screening are going into one of the two stickied threads at the top of the forum. One with spoilers, one not.

 

[Devon]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

Yes, forgot to mention that. Though, I wasn't sure if these belonged in the context of those threads since those threads seemed more aimed at the Gala Premieres going around the world. Didn't know the press' independent reviews fell into that or not.

 

[Augustus]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

This is probably the harshest review I have read thus far, but it is still positive!!!

 

[urbandk]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

excellent review. it was the first to touch on my concerns while still framing the movie in its deserved overwhelmingly positive light.

 

[shapeshifter]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

Yes, forgot to mention that. Though, I wasn't sure if these belonged in the context of those threads since those threads seemed more aimed at the Gala Premieres going around the world. Didn't know the press' independent reviews fell into that or not.

So are you saying yes, it does have spoilers, or yes, you weren't sure where to put it?

 

[Franklin]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

The criticism is valid and one hopes it will be addressed in the future, but it's not the movie Abrams was making now, and the reviewer is savvy enough (and fair enough) to differentiate between the two and appreciate what Abrams did on its face value. Obviously, this movie will never wear the label, The Motionless Picture.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

Did anyone else find that a bit amateurish? It's like the writer sat down with a dictionary and tried to plop down as many fancy adjectives in there as he could.

I thought it was common freshmen English law that that was bad taste.

"Oh look, I'm just not just a movie reviewer, I'm a genuine wordsmith. Ol' Chucky D better watch out!"

 

[Augustus]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

The criticism is valid and one hopes it will be addressed in the future, but it's not the movie Abrams was making now, and the reviewer is savvy enough (and fair enough) to differentiate between the two and appreciate what Abrams did on its face value. Obviously, this movie will never wear the label, The Motionless Picture.

Yeah, seems to me that if he can make an exciting movie, low on the cerebral he can draw in crowds that will appreciate a more cerebral story the next time... not that I want to see the motion picture part dos...

 

[Rii]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

but in a time when the United States is engaged in two wars, the failure to even acknowledge the issues arising from space imperialism and the Prime Directive is to flinch from battle.

Fuck off.

 

[Franklin]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

Did anyone else find that a bit amateurish? It's like the writer sat down with a dictionary and tried to plop down as many fancy adjectives in there as he could.

I thought it was common freshmen English law that that was bad taste.

"Oh look, I'm just not just a movie reviewer, I'm a genuine wordsmith. Ol' Chucky D better watch out!"

Actually, I thought it was very well-written. It's nice to see someone not afraid to use an expansive vocabulary. It's not like he couldn't be understood. Or that he was writing that way to draw attention to himself or make pretentious points. Just my opinion.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

ARE THERE SPOILERS IN THE REVIEW?

This has been asked multiple times, but not answered! How hard can it be to answer?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

Actually, I thought it was very well-written.

I agree.

 

[Augustus]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

ARE THERE SPOILERS IN THE REVIEW?

This has been asked multiple times, but not answered! How hard can it be to answer?

Yes there are some spoilers in the review, but nothing that I would consider all that revealing.

 

[Gojira]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

ARE THERE SPOILERS IN THE REVIEW?

This has been asked multiple times, but not answered! How hard can it be to answer?

There are very minor spoilers in this review and most of them are probably known by those who have been following the movie all along.

 

[milo bloom]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

I thought it was well written also, and seemed to make some very well-reasoned points.

I'm still not completely onboard with it being a

Spoiler

partial reboot (should have been all or nothing IMHO)

, but if it really does hold up to the core Trek ideals it will be a welcome addition to my Trek DVD collection.

 

[Mordock]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

in a time when the United States is engaged in two wars, the failure to even acknowledge the issues arising from space imperialism and the Prime Directive is to flinch from battle.

Save for the typically muddy motives of the modern bad guy — oh, for a truly Evil Empire —

So in a stolid resistance to modernity, the heroes aren't morally ambiguous enough, but in a craven surrender to modernity, the villain is too morally ambiguous? Pick a line and stick with it, Empire...

 

[CordrazineOD]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

but in a time when the United States is engaged in two wars, the failure to even acknowledge the issues arising from space imperialism and the Prime Directive is to flinch from battle.

Fuck off.

 

[Ptrope]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

in a time when the United States is engaged in two wars, the failure to even acknowledge the issues arising from space imperialism and the Prime Directive is to flinch from battle.

Save for the typically muddy motives of the modern bad guy — oh, for a truly Evil Empire —

So in a stolid resistance to modernity, the heroes aren't morally ambiguous enough, but in a craven surrender to modernity, the villain is too morally ambiguous? Pick a line and stick with it, Empire...

I took it to mean that the heroes are also morally ambiguous - they don't provide an allegory to current events (probably TOS's most deserving reputation), but simply run, jump and shoot.

OTOH, I wouldn't call the villain "morally ambiguous," so much as motivationally challenged, like so many modern fictional megalomaniacs. At least Dr. Evil wanted money, but so many supervillains just seem to be interested in destruction for its own sake - not a character trait I personally find very interesting. Not that I want to see one who's all emo, either, but hopefully Nero is more than just another spoiled Romulan like Shinzon, whose fixation on Picard was psychopathic, not rational in any way.

 

[datas_cat_spot]

Re: Empire Magazine - 4/5 Stars

Will there be an official critical review thread at some point?