Spinoff From The Porn Stash Thread: Disturbing or not...

[USS Intrepid]

That's silly. I actively chose to follow the standard that has been made available to all of us. I thought long and hard before making that decision and made it as an adult. I assume that many of the others that voted as I did in this poll also adhere to that standard.

Clearly you didn't think especially long or hard about it, or indeed bother to research any facts, since those standards you so admire are based on entirely misinformation and fear.

Actually, the standard I adhere to is based on information, acceptance, and love.

You may fool yourself into believing that, it's patently obvious that is all you're doing.

The statistics speak for themselves. I also invite you to discuss this further via PM if you wish.

Yes, indeed they do. It's a pity you can't be bothered looking at the real statistics, rather than the rubbish that's spouted by the so called 'religious right'.

 

[jamestyler]

I have people, unfortunately, that are kin to me that believe that you can "become gay" by associating with gay people.

My mother has similar fears. Not that she'll become gay, but that all lesbians want to convert her! My sisters roommate doesn't help this as he keeps talking about 'converting' me. But he's just creepy.

Okay, now you lost me. If you're not attracted to someone, why would you be messing around with them?

Because you're horny and it's been a while?

Who is so horny that they'd willingly do it with somebody they don't even LIKE? That's taking desperation to a whole new level. Unless there's prison involved.

You kidding me? Some of the women I've been with I've downright loathed. Some I slept with because I wanted to, some simply because I could, some because I was bored, some were superficial and two because I loved.

Not a problem. Homosexuality is being portrayed by some people as acceptable behavior. In my view it is not and clearly leads to a shorter life. That information needs to be and will be shared. This is just another reason why it is a disturbing scenario.

What is this? The 80's?

4. I'll inform and instruct my children where, how and when I see fit.

5. You're entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree.

What? You'll tell your kids that being gay is wrong? Unnatural? Let them grow up with the same mindset as you do? Is that all that different passing racism down a generation? If everyones opinion is so valued, what about your kids? Are you going to tell them it's wrong? Or just say "They're gay" and let them make up their own mind? I doubt that.

You say they'll know how bad hatred is from Gods words? How can you be sure they wont learn what hatred is by your disgust?

As for the actual question... I don't mind in the slightest and encourage gay friends to open up and not be afraid of some narrow minded idiots. And in Glasgow, despite having a big gay population, there are many, many idiots.

Personally I'm a more private person. I show very little affection but always feel those who do feel as if they should hide should instead be as open as they can with their affections and not be afraid of a caveman swinging his club.

And I thought today would be quiet...

 

[TheLonelySquire]

I have people, unfortunately, that are kin to me that believe that you can "become gay" by associating with gay people.

My mother has similar fears. Not that she'll become gay, but that all lesbians want to convert her! My sisters roommate doesn't help this as he keeps talking about 'converting' me. But he's just creepy.

Who is so horny that they'd willingly do it with somebody they don't even LIKE? That's taking desperation to a whole new level. Unless there's prison involved.

You kidding me? Some of the women I've been with I've downright loathed. Some I slept with because I wanted to, some simply because I could, some because I was bored, some were superficial and two because I loved.

Not a problem. Homosexuality is being portrayed by some people as acceptable behavior. In my view it is not and clearly leads to a shorter life. That information needs to be and will be shared. This is just another reason why it is a disturbing scenario.

What is this? The 80's?

4. I'll inform and instruct my children where, how and when I see fit.

5. You're entitled to your opinion. I respectfully disagree.

What? You'll tell your kids that being gay is wrong? Unnatural? Let them grow up with the same mindset as you do? Is that all that different passing racism down a generation? If everyones opinion is so valued, what about your kids? Are you going to tell them it's wrong? Or just say "They're gay" and let them make up their own mind? I doubt that.

You say they'll know how bad hatred is from Gods words? How can you be sure they wont learn what hatred is by your disgust?

As for the actual question... I don't mind in the slightest and encourage gay friends to open up and not be afraid of some narrow minded idiots. And in Glasgow, despite having a big gay population, there are many, many idiots.

Personally I'm a more private person. I show very little affection but always feel those who do feel as if they should hide should instead be as open as they can with their affections and not be afraid of a caveman swinging his club.

And I thought today would be quiet...

Yes and yes. That is exactly what they are being taught. As I said, they will be raised as Christians and will be taught the difference between right and wrong. At the end of the day however, they will make up their own mind. I hope they choose the right path.

 

[Michael]

TheLonelySquire, your posts are fucking ridiculous.

 

[jamestyler]

Yes and yes. That is exactly what they are being taught. As I said, they will be raised as Christians and will be taught the difference between right and wrong. At the end of the day however, they will make up their own mind. I hope they choose the right path.

Atheism?

 

[TheLonelySquire]

Yes and yes. That is exactly what they are being taught. As I said, they will be raised as Christians and will be taught the difference between right and wrong. At the end of the day however, they will make up their own mind. I hope they choose the right path.

Atheism?

Eternal seperation from God is not the choice I would hope they would make.

 

[DonIago]

How do you know that God wants your children to believe what you intend to teach them to believe?

 

[RJDiogenes]

Remember to keep it civil and on Topic in here, folks. Some are starting to get a bit carried away.

 

[USS Intrepid]

Yes and yes. That is exactly what they are being taught. As I said, they will be raised as Christians and will be taught the difference between right and wrong. At the end of the day however, they will make up their own mind. I hope they choose the right path.

Atheism?

One can only hope.

 

[TheLonelySquire]

How do you know that God wants your children to believe what you intend to teach them to believe?

They are being taught God's Word, not my word. It's there for every one of us.

 

[JuanBolio]

I actively chose to follow the standard that has been made available to all of us.

One of many. Yours is not inherently superior to a number of others. You believe it to be the one true will of the one true God, but this is your opinion, not a fact. A lot of people disagree with you. And short of dying, it is unprovable.

They are being taught God's Word, not my word.

One interpretation of one translation passed down from multiple texts over thousands of year, often manipulated by those who sought power and social control. Unless the creator of the universe spoke to you personally, you have no idea if its God's word or not.

 

[Lindley]

Technically speaking they're being taught a several-times-translated version of God's Word. Which was itself written down after spending at least some time as an oral history. So it's kinda like playing telephone. The message is probably at least vaguely related to the original, but that's the best you can claim.

Which isn't to say the book doesn't make a pretty decent set of moral guidelines, taken in the proper context.

And hey, a double-negative.

 

[JuanBolio]

Which isn't to say the book doesn't make a pretty decent set of moral guidelines, taken in the proper context.

Hmm...

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/atrocity.html

 

[TheLonelySquire]

I actively chose to follow the standard that has been made available to all of us.

One of many. Yours is not inherently superior to a number of others. You believe it to be the one true will of the one true God, but this is your opinion, not a fact. A lot of people disagree with you. And short of dying, it is unprovable.

They are being taught God's Word, not my word.

One interpretation of one translation passed down from multiple texts over thousands of year, often manipulated by those who sought power and social control. Unless the creator of the universe spoke to you personally, you have no idea if its God's word or not.

I'll take the chance that it is. You are free not to do so. Completely your choice.

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

My question is, why not just live and let live?

 

[JuanBolio]

My question is, why not just live and let live?

I'd be content to do so if the evangelicals did not constantly preach and try to inflict their values on others.

 

[CaptainStoner]

The statistics speak for themselves.

Which reminds me, you dodged my question (the famous TLS shuffle).

Being a promiscuous meth-head has been shown to shorten the lifespan. Being in love, and pursuing that love, with someone of the same gender has not. But why split hairs, right?
Why do you not separate one causality from another?

If homosexuality causes a shorter lifespan, then please provide us with this clearly vital information. How much is one's life shortened, per homo kiss? By what biological mechanism is the homo life shortened?

 

[jamestyler]

Eternal seperation from God is not the choice I would hope they would make.

With me, I'd rather my daughter make that choice for herself. Giving children access to opinions, ideas and believes is one thing. Telling them what to believe at a young and influencing age is another. You train them to believe your choice instead of finding their own path.

My RS teacher went through hell to get her beliefs taught in a very Christian school, but she still managed to teach us about as many diverse religions and cultures as possible (whereas the school told her to teach Christianity and nothing else).

The best lesson she taught was "This is whats out there, make up your own mind."

Edit: I'm not trying to preach, though it may sound like it, I've just seen more damage done through passing on values and thoughts, from hardcore belief to a stray comment.

 

[Captain Ice]

TheLonelySquire, your posts are fucking ridiculous.

If ypu are going to do this in MISC, you need to have a bit more substance in there. Otherwise it's trolling and will be responded to as such.

 

[ShamelessMcBundy]

Yeah this whole thing? One of the reasons why i don't want kids ...