Spinoff From The Porn Stash Thread: Disturbing or not...

[JuanBolio]

IMO, 2 dudes kissing isn't even gay.

Huh? I'm sorry, two guys tongue kissing is gay.

Reminds me of a story. LONG time ago, when I was young and good looking, a gay guy came on to me. He asked me if I wanted a BJ, I said "No, thanks. I'm not gay" Then he said "It doesn't make you gay if I do it to you". I still don't understand that one.

Basically engaging in a homosexual act doesn't make you a homosexual. It doesn't mean you're attracted to the person you're messing around with, or the same sex in general. It doesn't have to mean anything other than you want to get off and that's all that's available. To be truly homosexual or bisexual you would have to, I think, be able to engage in a full-on romantic/emotional relationship with someone of the same gender. Simply messing around out of boredom, curiosity, or extreme hornyness doesn't cut it.

 

[Kail]

IMO, 2 dudes kissing isn't even gay.

Huh? I'm sorry, two guys tongue kissing is gay.

Reminds me of a story. LONG time ago, when I was young and good looking, a gay guy came on to me. He asked me if I wanted a BJ, I said "No, thanks. I'm not gay" Then he said "It doesn't make you gay if I do it to you". I still don't understand that one.

Basically engaging in a homosexual act doesn't make you a homosexual. It doesn't mean you're attracted to the person you're messing around with, or the same sex in general. It doesn't have to mean anything other than you want to get off and that's all that's available. To be truly homosexual or bisexual you would have to, I think, be able to engage in a full-on romantic/emotional relationship with someone of the same gender. Simply messing around out of boredom, curiosity, or extreme hornyness doesn't cut it.

Let's just agree to disagree on this one. In order for this to "get you off" you'd have to be attracted to your partner. I would not be able to perform with another guy.

 

[JuanBolio]

Huh? I'm sorry, two guys tongue kissing is gay.

Reminds me of a story. LONG time ago, when I was young and good looking, a gay guy came on to me. He asked me if I wanted a BJ, I said "No, thanks. I'm not gay" Then he said "It doesn't make you gay if I do it to you". I still don't understand that one.

Basically engaging in a homosexual act doesn't make you a homosexual. It doesn't mean you're attracted to the person you're messing around with, or the same sex in general. It doesn't have to mean anything other than you want to get off and that's all that's available. To be truly homosexual or bisexual you would have to, I think, be able to engage in a full-on romantic/emotional relationship with someone of the same gender. Simply messing around out of boredom, curiosity, or extreme hornyness doesn't cut it.

Let's just agree to disagree on this one. In order for this to "get you off" you'd have to be attracted to your partner. I would not be able to perform with another guy.

I'm not attracted to myself, yet masturbation works. Nor have I been particularly attracted to several of my past sexual partners, but the sex still worked because a mouth, hand, vagina, asshole etc. on your cock feels good no matter who its attached to.

But that's me. I can be pretty damn casual about sex.

 

[JonathonWally]

Basically engaging in a homosexual act doesn't make you a homosexual. It doesn't mean you're attracted to the person you're messing around with, or the same sex in general. It doesn't have to mean anything other than you want to get off and that's all that's available. To be truly homosexual or bisexual you would have to, I think, be able to engage in a full-on romantic/emotional relationship with someone of the same gender. Simply messing around out of boredom, curiosity, or extreme hornyness doesn't cut it.

Let's just agree to disagree on this one. In order for this to "get you off" you'd have to be attracted to your partner. I would not be able to perform with another guy.

I'm not attracted to myself, yet masturbation works.

I'm attracted to myself.

 

[JuanBolio]

Let's just agree to disagree on this one. In order for this to "get you off" you'd have to be attracted to your partner. I would not be able to perform with another guy.

I'm not attracted to myself, yet masturbation works.

I'm attracted to myself.

Yeah, but you're a lot more feminine than me.

 

[Kail]

As Woody Allan says "Masterbation is sex with someone you love".

 

[Trekker4747]

Where's the "not something I really want to see, but to each their own" option?

 

[JonathonWally]

I'm not attracted to myself, yet masturbation works.

I'm attracted to myself.

Yeah, but you're a lot more feminine than me.

Don't hate me because I'm awesome.

 

[ST-One]

I think two dudes kissing is one of the most disgusting thing in the world. I dont care about dudes giving each other a peck on the cheek because it is the custom in their country, but two dudes going at it with tongue is nasty.

 

[Trekker4747]

I think two dudes kissing is one of the most disgusting thing in the world. I dont care about dudes giving each other a peck on the cheek because it is the custom in their country, but two dudes going at it with tongue is nasty.

 

[Amaris]

It doesn't disturb me at all. I take love as it is. If two men wish to kiss one another, who am I to prevent them from doing so? In many cases, I find it can be a very romantic gesture.


J.

 

[Goliath]

NOT. DISTURBING.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

It's not disturbing. In fact it brings up no emotion at all with me. *shrugs*

Basically engaging in a homosexual act doesn't make you a homosexual. It doesn't mean you're attracted to the person you're messing around with, or the same sex in general.

Okay, now you lost me. If you're not attracted to someone, why would you be messing around with them?

 

[TorontoTrekker]

Okay, now you lost me. If you're not attracted to someone, why would you be messing around with them?

Because you're horny and it's been a while? God knows I've done it. Not often, and not in a few years, but I have. I think most people who have had a few one-night stands would agree with me.

Oh, and obviously, I voted for "not disturbing". Go figure.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Okay, now you lost me. If you're not attracted to someone, why would you be messing around with them?

Because you're horny and it's been a while?

Who is so horny that they'd willingly do it with somebody they don't even LIKE? That's taking desperation to a whole new level. Unless there's prison involved.

 

[Amaris]

Okay, now you lost me. If you're not attracted to someone, why would you be messing around with them?

Because you're horny and it's been a while? God knows I've done it. Not often, and not in a few years, but I have. I think most people who have had a few one-night stands would agree with me.

Oh, and obviously, I voted for "not disturbing". Go figure.

A question, TT, since you raise an issue I've been wondering about:

Is it abnormal to wait?

There have been opportunities where I could have availed myself a "horny" person, and never have, even though I'm a virgin myself. Is it possible for one to become so used to saying no or being denied that they don't even consider the options on the table? I'm trying not to derail the thread or anything, I'm just curious.

J.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Is it abnormal to wait?

No.

Better to wait for someone you truly care about, then to do something you might regret under the mistaken impression that you have to "get it over with" or anything like that.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

Not. I laugh every time I see some man freak out over to dudes kissing; like they're afraid of catching "the gay".

You have to recite a magical incantation first.

Absolutely.

It was a yes or no question. Knowing you, I'm going to go for a very emphatic "Absolutely not disturbing."

I agree.

 

[TorontoTrekker]

Okay, now you lost me. If you're not attracted to someone, why would you be messing around with them?

Because you're horny and it's been a while?

Who is so horny that they'd willingly do it with somebody they don't even LIKE? That's taking desperation to a whole new level. Unless there's prison involved.

The question wasn't "would you do it with someone you don't like?" It was "would you do it with someone you weren't attracted to?"

(Note that I don't deny that desperation is sometimes involved. )

A question, TT, since you raise an issue I've been wondering about:

Is it abnormal to wait?

Not if you've decided that that's what's right for you. (Just don't expect everyone else to decide that it must also be right for them. You'll be in for a vast disappointment. Then again, I know that you would never have any such expectation.)

There have been opportunities where I could have availed myself a "horny" person, and never have, even though I'm a virgin myself. Is it possible for one to become so used to saying no or being denied that they don't even consider the options on the table? I'm trying not to derail the thread or anything, I'm just curious.

I think it's like the story about the man who refused help from his neighbours who offered to help him escape from the oncoming flood, on the basis that God would save him. When he drowned and asked God why he hadn't done so, God said, "I sent you a car, a boat and a helicopter - what else do you want?"

That's a roundabout way of saying that yes, it's possible that you could be so intent on denying yourself that the perfect woman for you could come up and proposition you, and you would refuse her without even getting to know her because you were "saving it". The problem is that she was the one you were saving it for, and you missed the opportunity.

I'm not saying that you have to jump into bed with anyone and everyone who smiles at you in the hope that they're "the one". (That's what I spent over ten years doing... and yet only had about seven or eight partners in all that time. I wasn't exactly in demand.) But it's not necessarily a bad thing to allow yourself to be open to the possibility that the woman of your dreams may not show up in exactly the form you had hoped.

Heck, if you'd said to me ten years ago that today I'd be dating someone who was born two months after I graduated from high school, who lives a thousand miles away and whom I would meet via a member of this message board, I'd have laughed at you. But I found myself in a situation where I was presented with the opportunity to take a chance, I took it, and today I'm very happy.

 

[Amaris]

A question, TT, since you raise an issue I've been wondering about:

Is it abnormal to wait?

Not if you've decided that that's what's right for you. (Just don't expect everyone else to decide that it must also be right for them. You'll be in for a vast disappointment. Then again, I know that you would never have any such expectation.)

There have been opportunities where I could have availed myself a "horny" person, and never have, even though I'm a virgin myself. Is it possible for one to become so used to saying no or being denied that they don't even consider the options on the table? I'm trying not to derail the thread or anything, I'm just curious.

I think it's like the story about the man who refused help from his neighbours who offered to help him escape from the oncoming flood, on the basis that God would save him. When he drowned and asked God why he hadn't done so, God said, "I sent you a car, a boat and a helicopter - what else do you want?"

That's a roundabout way of saying that yes, it's possible that you could be so intent on denying yourself that the perfect woman for you could come up and proposition you, and you would refuse her without even getting to know her because you were "saving it". The problem is that she was the one you were saving it for, and you missed the opportunity.

I'm not saying that you have to jump into bed with anyone and everyone who smiles at you in the hope that they're "the one". (That's what I spent over ten years doing... and yet only had about seven or eight partners in all that time. I wasn't exactly in demand.) But it's not necessarily a bad thing to allow yourself to be open to the possibility that the woman of your dreams may not show up in exactly the form you had hoped.

Heck, if you'd said to me ten years ago that today I'd be dating someone who was born two months after I graduated from high school, who lives a thousand miles away and whom I would meet via a member of this message board, I'd have laughed at you. But I found myself in a situation where I was presented with the opportunity to take a chance, I took it, and today I'm very happy.

Thanks for the answer, TT. I don't know, I guess my emotions are getting more solidified, and I don't like it. As you mentioned, I think I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to deny everyone who comes along. I mean, it's not like I have time to explore anything, much less a romantic relationship. My life's going to fly right by me and all I'll have left are some lonely years when I'm too old to enjoy whatever life I have left.

J.