Heroes 3x21 "Into Asylum" Discuss and Grade
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Better, although not as good as last week. And it was the first time in memory that Claire appeared onscreen and my finger didn't hover over the fast forward button. It also appears that the show is taking the time to slow down to give us the character moments to help us understand the motives behind what they are doing, not just throwing them around from plot point to point.
I'm interested in how this arc plays out. Three weeks ago I wasn't.
I'm interested in how this arc plays out. Three weeks ago I wasn't.
My thoughts exactly. It always irritated me how these people bumped into each other then parted ways, over and over. Like they're raging idiots or something. I can understand specific individuals not wanting to work together. But for all of them, as a group, to just think "hey, let's work together for a few minutes and then split up, even though the entire world is after us," it's just absurd.
Ma Petrelli should form a new Company, with the goal of hunting down the people who abuse their powers and keeping society safe from such types. They kind of touched on that last volume, with the prison, but I'm thinking more along the lines of a relatively benevolent Company that operates with at least tacit government approval. They catch the bad guys, turn them over to the gov't for safekeeping, and the Heroes get a pass on their vigilantism.
I am not particularly interested in a "villain of the week" kind of show--they can have their ongoing storylines and volume "arcs," it'd just be nice to see them pool their resources and stop being idiots. Your normal lives are over. Get over it and do something with your powers, for fuck's sake.
another thing, anyone remember Daphne's comment that Matt was interested in starting a detective agency? Im hoping that gets explored, I think that would be a cool idea, similar in vein to some of the stuff being suggested here.
A few things that annoyed me with "Into Asylum"...
-Claire telling Nathan about what she thought about her "real father." HRG might not be her biological father but he is her "real" father. How many more bullets must he take for Claire his ingrate of her daughter of that? Noah was the one who raised her. As for her "always wondering" about her "real" father, she didn't even know she was adopted until she was about 13.
-Nathan wanting Claire to thank him for giving her a pass. This is even stupider than most of Claire's antics. Expecting thanks from someone for giving them a pass isn't a gift when you were the one who created the situation. It would be like deliberately setting a house of fire, rescuing the person inside, and then expecting them to be grateful for it. The characters on this show still have a tendancy to create situations out of their own stupidity (Hiro taking the formula out of his father's vault) and then expecting everyone to be grateful when they've saved the day.
-Claire telling Nathan about what she thought about her "real father." HRG might not be her biological father but he is her "real" father. How many more bullets must he take for Claire his ingrate of her daughter of that? Noah was the one who raised her. As for her "always wondering" about her "real" father, she didn't even know she was adopted until she was about 13.
-Nathan wanting Claire to thank him for giving her a pass. This is even stupider than most of Claire's antics. Expecting thanks from someone for giving them a pass isn't a gift when you were the one who created the situation. It would be like deliberately setting a house of fire, rescuing the person inside, and then expecting them to be grateful for it. The characters on this show still have a tendancy to create situations out of their own stupidity (Hiro taking the formula out of his father's vault) and then expecting everyone to be grateful when they've saved the day.
^^ That'll be tough since in the next episode she's going to get crippled and have to spend the rest of her life in a wheelchair.
Parkman should be the one who is crippled, and the headmaster of the school.
Nathan, Tracy, Monica, girl-Sylar, and a new character with eye beams should be the first students. Girl-Sylar and Eye-beam guy should have an affair.
We assume. Except that he went nuclear in the future and seemed to hide in plain sight in the first episode of the last volume (powers he had in the first season). It was also never said on screen that he lost those powers. At this point, Sylar has few to no weaknesses and they might as well just give him those things too.
When he was literally shot and after his fall, I had a hard time believing all that could be caused by telepathy. What's wrong with just giving him a "durability" power taken from someone. For a serial killer who regretted how many times he had killed, he seemed to have only killed two (retconned to 3) times by the beginning of the series. They could have given him more than that.
Hush with your logic, common sense, and continuity now. This is Heroes. And all adoptive parents are only baby sitters. Watch any "reunion" show. They teach you this unfortunate lesson. I know you were a mean rotten drunk but you're my real mommy.
Claire could be the poster child.
It wasn't said on screen, but Joe Pokaski and Aron Coliete confirmed that he lost all of his powers except his own (intuitive aptitude) and Brian Davis' telekinesis. He kept the telekinesis because of his guilt over having murdered Davis.
For the record, Sylar's known powers are now:
- Intuitive aptitude (his own)
- Regenerative Healing (Claire Bennet)
- Alchemy (Bob Bishop)
- Clairsentience (Bridget Bailey)
- Echo manipulation (Jesse Murphy)
- Electricity Manipulation (Elle Bishop)
- Lie detection (Sue Landers)
- Imprinting (Joe Macon)
- Shape Shifting (James Martin)
He has had opportunities to acquire echo manipulation (from Echo DeMille - presumably because he already had it), metal mimicry (Danny Pine) and Puppet Mastery (Eric Doyle) but does not appear to have taken them for some unknown reason.
The interview with Pokaski and Coliete suggested that Sylar will find other "donors" for the powers he demonstrates in the future later.
Re: Danko... He's also really short with an abnormally large skull I call him Mr. Potato!How would Claire's abilities allow her to learn to become an Olympic level gymnist in an afternoon? That sounds like Micah's cousin from Season Two who can mimic anything she sees...
Monica can do it in like, a second--that is her ability. While Claire can't copy the skill, muscle memory, and such, all exercise is when you break it down, is very minute tears and repairs of muscles and other related systems. People buildup their bodies over time. She does it instantaneously, so...
So I guess the more apt analogy would be that she could get crazy-body-builder-ripped if she just went down to the gym with a few power bars and some time to kill.
^Correction - Monica can only duplicate actions she, as a relatively healthy young woman, is physically capable of performing. She could, for instance, copy Usain Bolt's running style but he'd still beat her in a race.
Or, she could perfectly copy an Olympic-level weightlifter's lifting technique but she would not be strong enough to lift the weights. The main skills we saw her copy (Bruce Lee and Rey Mysterio's deliberately theatrical fighting styles, parkour, rope jumping etc) are well within her ability.
Or, she could perfectly copy an Olympic-level weightlifter's lifting technique but she would not be strong enough to lift the weights. The main skills we saw her copy (Bruce Lee and Rey Mysterio's deliberately theatrical fighting styles, parkour, rope jumping etc) are well within her ability.
Interesting. None of these powers explain to me how he was able to move from the back of the Hunter's car to the top of the building in what appeared to be seconds, or his mysterious appearance in the car in the first place. I wonder if he's picked up powers we haven't seen, or if those moves were just supposed to be Sylar being clever and very quick.
Pretty good episode. I can see Fuller's influence. One thing was bugging me though. Was Hayden Pantyderiere or whatever her name is wearing a wig? If she did cut herhair, she should have used that as a means to change her appearance. Unless she went spear bald ala Natalie Portman in V For Vendetta. Does anyone have any pics of her with shorter hair?
The actress is wearing a wig. Claire got cute bangs on her way to Mexico flying in with daddy. A woodpecker gave them a trim mid flight.