TV Ratings (Monday 30th January)
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As long as Heroes' demo doesn't budge, that's what counts. I wonder if Fuller can actually stop the hemmorhaging? I'm traditionally a skeptic about quality = ratings.
Of course quality has nothing to do with ratings for a large part, looks at some of the most boring drivel that gets high ratings. However in this case its clear Heroes has annoyed its fanbase in what I would say a record time for any show, I mean what fall from grace.
Tim Kring will never get a job again
It's a shame that Heroes' numbers are continuing to fall, considering that the last couple of episodes have shown a marked improvement in quality. Unfortunately, the damage has been done thanks to the less-than-stellar earlier episodes of Season 3, and I think it's unlikely to recoup many of the lost viewers, if any.
I know it's already been renewed for a fourth season, but I'd be surprised if it lasted beyond that.
I know it's already been renewed for a fourth season, but I'd be surprised if it lasted beyond that.
January?
Will the demo go see Trek for Sylar?
The reverse is more likely - Heroes will benefit from Trek XI's success.
Particularly now that we've had a chance to see that Bryan Fuller is the key ingredient in this show sucking vs not sucking.
I guess Kring was just there to sign the paychecks.
Perhaps it's an early April Fools Day joke, to make us think that we've... uh, travelled back in time... I guess.
Good one! You almost had me!
The reverse is more likely - Heroes will benefit from Trek XI's success.
Particularly now that we've had a chance to see that Bryan Fuller is the key ingredient in this show sucking vs not sucking.
At the risk of committing blasphemy, wasn't the same true for Roddenberry? That is, be the conceptual creator, but leave the nuts and bolts to others?
Oh, and I sure hope it is Trek that'll lift Heroes, not the other way around. I'm hoping for a 70 million opening week.... eternally.... hoping...
His basic creative idea has been amazingly strong & durable, to say the least. It's distinctly different from the source material - Buck Rogers, Flash Gordon, Horatio Hornblower, Forbidden Planet and Wagon Train (what am I missing?) might have inspired Star Trek but individually none of them has lasted going on 50 years now, and the notion of combining them all with what might be called "tough-minded liberalism" as the political undercurrent plus a healthy dollop of early-60s hedonism was certainly a unique approach that nobody else would have dreamt up.
So Roddenberry has to be at least partly credited for the success of subsequent writers who might have been better writers than he could ever be, but never would have thought of that inspired mish-mosh on their own.
Kring cribbed X-Men with some Watchmen, Spider-Man, etc tossed in, so Heroes' claim to fame is all in the approach you take to this very well-trod material. Maybe we can give him credit for the casting - the first season more or less whittled the cast down to the characters who really worked, either because the actors are very talented or because they are very well matched to their characters.
Fuller's the guy who knows the right approach to take - he's done very well with a lot of his own material, not so well with Star Trek, but maybe that's not really his milieu? He seems to have a very strong grasp on the fundamentals - how to keep characters consistent, how to use them to grab our attention, how to craft a story that is reasonably fresh and original, not random and blundering, and builds well to the right emotional payoffs.
Or maybe its the sheer amateurism of what we've seen for the past two seasons that makes Fuller look good by comparison?
Screw Heroes, Chuck is the show that needs to stop gorram falling.
If I was NBC I would only bring Chuck back for a short 9 episode order and then if the ratings continue falling give the producers 2/3 more to wrap things up though if things improve greenlight a back 9-13.
Screw Heroes, Chuck is the show that needs to stop gorram falling.
If I was NBC I would only bring Chuck back for a short 9 episode order and then if the ratings continue falling give the producers 2/3 more to wrap things up though if things improve greenlight a back 9-13.
Word is they're going to get 13 and be back by September. NBC likes the show and has nothing to replace it with.
Chuck is about to take a new direction, and I'm excited. Heroes could take a lesson with its stale storytelling.
Heroes is nowhere near 100 episodes yet. The show will have around 60 episodes once this season is over.
NBC will probably demand that the size of the main cast be reduced starting next season. I think that can only be a good thing. Time to get rid of the deadweight and give the better characters much better storylines. Something drastic needs to happen ASAP like Sylar nuking a city for real and killing half the main cast.
Heroes will be on 59 episodes after the end of season 3 depending on if NBC does 18/19/20 we could be left with either 77,78 or 79 episodes. Assuming that NBC will want a 5th season bet your house it would be the last and will have enough episodes to hit 100.
IMO if NBC want an 18 episode 4th season and if it stays like that then Heroes is OVER but if NBC decides dueing the airing of season 4, that the show warrants a 5th then they will commison the extra 1 or 2 episodes and am sure that will be used to set up the plot for a 5th season...
eiher way Heroes has no longer to live than 2011.
As I understand it, hitting 100 episodes is no longer the magic number for syndication, so that won't really effect selling the syndi package. I also predict the cast being reduced next season to save on costs. And I bet you dollars to donuts Peter will be one of the ones to bite it. Remember that gossip going around a few weeks ago, that since Hayden broke up with much-older Milo she's gone diva-queen and refuses to be on set at the same time as him? Who are they gonna drop, Claire Bear or EmoPeter? I think it'll be Peter!