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Job Interviews Of Fail: This Time I'm On The Other Side Of The Desk..

Plecostomus

Commodore
So we've got two operator positions open and I am interviewing for a helper-apprentice.

The machine operator positions are unskilled labor... training is provided and this company is VERY GOOD about training. More or less you put thing in the other thing, push a button and take the combined thing out 45 seconds later. Very easy stuff.

Second job, I'm looking for someone that I can train to work as my left hand doing routine purchasing work and run prototypes at my direction, Semi-skilled... Prefer someone with basic business skills or someone with manufacturing skills.



Ok so the first interview... I was invited to sit in on the interview as this position overlaps the CNC and Fab-Shop departments.

Guy comes in and wants to know how many people in the department, their ages, military experience and a whole host of other information. We kept steering him back on topic trying to get him to realize this is NOT a forman position it's a labor position. HE keeps steering it back to how he's going to rock the shop to the ground and institute all these changes and he doesn't care if it's an entry level position he's coming in to TAKE CHARGE. NEXT!

Second guy comes in and promptly states that because of his 22 years experience he should not have to answer to the "chain of command" as he doesn't need someone looking over his shoulder, there is NOTHING he cannot do in a shop like this. Had a very hard time getting him to understand this is an ENTRY LEVEL POSITION but he couldn't hear that over the sound the sound of his raging awesometicity. NEXT!

Third candidate: The list of "reasonable accomidations" we would have to make was longer than the actual interview. She can't lift more than 15 pounds, sit on a hard chair, all stools must be X high and have backs and padding, she cannot work near sudden loud noises nor be exposed to insects because she is allergic to 47 kinds... Oh and the real gem... she told us she can't be on a team with anyone who is "religious" because of a past childhood trauma and she can provide documentation explaining what happens when she's around "those sorts."


Ok then I went to lunch and got ready to interview a potential apprentice-helper for my area. Owner has the last word so he's listening in via webcam from the next room. This prevents me from hiring some bimbo with epic cleavage because she smells nice.

(OK IT HAPPENED ONE TIME AND IT WASN'T MY FAULT, BOB SIGNED THE PAPERS NOT ME!
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Anyway. Gentleman sits down I introduce myself and explain what I am looking for and he cuts me off. He asks me how old I am and before I can answer he says that he wants a different interviewer... one closer in age to him because there is no way in hell that anyone MY age can understand exactly what his skills and degree represent and that only someone around his age could fully grasp that. Owner gets up, walks into my office, shakes his hand and tells him to GTFO.

The ultimate fail on that one? I'm mid 30s.. he's 29.



Ok anyone else go through this? I'm beginning to understand this is just how people are at interviews and these clowns I delt with today are nothing special.
 
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^^ Keep tabs of that, and someday, when some news periodical is looking for interviewer stories you can send them a load of terrific fodder. I *love it* when job applicants issue demands in an interview.
 
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^^ Keep tabs of that, and someday, when some news periodical is looking for interviewer stories you can send them a load of terrific fodder. I *love it* when job applicants issue demands in an interview.

My bosses tell me these are NOTHING that these are MINOR compared to some of the epicshit they've delt with over the decades.

All I can say to that is :eek:
 
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Are you sure these interviews weren't scheduled for tomorrow?
 
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Ok anyone else go through this? I'm beginning to understand this is just how people are at interviews and these clowns I delt with today are nothing special.
Yes and you are right. These folks are very typical. You have to wade through a lot of crap interviews to even find a candidate who MIGHT work out. Figure hundreds of interviews to find that typical 'round peg in the round hole' prospective employee. Then when you do, be prepared for the salary requirements to floor you.
 
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The former military guys are funny. Some, such as myself, prefer a sense of structure and order; however, it's the gung ho types that kill me.

"IMA TURN EVERYTHING AROUND IN THIS PLACE AND IT WILL BE TEH MOST FISHIANT EVAR!!!!!!"
 
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The former military guys are funny. Some, such as myself, prefer a sense of structure and order; however, it's the gung ho types that kill me.

"IMA TURN EVERYTHING AROUND IN THIS PLACE AND IT WILL BE TEH MOST FISHIANT EVAR!!!!!!"


"YOU WILL SET UP THIS LATHE AND YOU WILL SET IT UP WITH A 3/8 INCH DRILL BIT AND YOU WILL RUN IT AT MAXIMUM SPEED DO YOU GET ME?"

"But, the print sez it's a 1/4 inch hole!"

"YOU DARE QUESTION A DIRECT ORDER WHERE I COME FROM YOU WOULD BE SHOT NOW SET UP THIS FUCKING LATHE AND SET IT UP AS I HAVE ORDERED YOU DO YOU GET ME?"

Actually, I've been in that situation... ended up getting fired. Ex-Marine drill-Sargent-turned-machinists don't like being told "learn how to read a fucking blueprint" by "brats" such as my self. :guffaw:
 
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dang . . . I hope you find the right person soon!


or maybe not because these stories are fun to read :devil:
 
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dang . . . I hope you find the right person soon!

Indeed, we are understaffed.

or maybe not because these stories are fun to read :devil:

Also fun to sit there and try to keep your composure. It's easier because we either have two people (me and one of my bosses) doing the interview or they are monitoring via camera.
 
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I thought in this economy there would be a surplus of good labour and ppl who would actually TRY to get the job
 
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Shit, I don't have a troubled owkr hisotyr, a clean record, no demand of work requirements, and I still haven't gotten a call back.

If I were the interviewee, I'd laugh my ass off for full minute and tell them they are fucking insane. Collect my unemployement check for a while.
 
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I thought in this economy there would be a surplus of good labour and ppl who would actually TRY to get the job


Companies used the downturn to shed themselves of several layers of deadwood and dross first... these are the ones who are running out of unemployment and are looking to shoehorn into ANY position they can. "Maybe if I can get in the door I can convince them that I should actually work in X position instead of what they are offering." That sort of mentality.

The "good" people who got fired in the second and third rounds of layoffs are still collecting so they haven't looked in this direction yet. As they run out of time they'll start looking at entry-level positions.

We'll find the "right" persons eventually, it's just going to take awhile. :)
 
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Yes and you are right. These folks are very typical. You have to wade through a lot of crap interviews to even find a candidate who MIGHT work out. Figure hundreds of interviews to find that typical 'round peg in the round hole' prospective employee. Then when you do, be prepared for the salary requirements to floor you.

Spot on.
 
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Wow...

I'm just glad I don't have to interview anyone anymore. I got a job last year as I was the only person who listened, was respectful, didn't show any major ego and more importantly to the interviewer... wasn't wearing a track suit.

When I was on the management team for a club years ago I went through two weeks of hellish interviews and eventually picked two people. One because he was nice and quiet, the other just because he had experience (and because I was asked to hire males as so far I'd only hired very attractive women - oops).

Within two days he was ranting about how the place was run, that he should have my job, that he could run the place better than all the other members of staff and demanded a higher wage rate as he knew how to pull a pint.

Firing him was not the worst experience of my life. Though the most irritating I'd seen was in a group interview (which always turns into a room full of people trying to tell better and bigger bullshit) where a middle aged American just rambled and shouted over everyone else to make sure they knew he was the most awesome man in the room.

I was thankful that they asked him to leave.
 
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The machine operator positions are unskilled labor... training is provided and this company is VERY GOOD about training. More or less you put thing in the other thing, push a button and take the combined thing out 45 seconds later. Very easy stuff.

Where is this position? I do not have machine-related experience, but I am mechanically minded. I learn processes fairly quickly.
 
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Interviewing used to be fun, long ago, but now it's turned into real work. :(
 
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The machine operator positions are unskilled labor... training is provided and this company is VERY GOOD about training. More or less you put thing in the other thing, push a button and take the combined thing out 45 seconds later. Very easy stuff.

Where is this position? I do not have machine-related experience, but I am mechanically minded. I learn processes fairly quickly.

Upstate New York, near Lake Ontario. Pay is $9.25 an hour, AFLAC, two weeks off (plus holidays), work-related training assistance, chocolate cake on your birthday plus company seafood-bakes every two weeks through the summer.

Only catch is you have to make quota, and not make much scrap. We're very picky about both of those conditions as that keeps our costs down. 'tis why we have two openings all of a sudden.
 
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Ok anyone else go through this? I'm beginning to understand this is just how people are at interviews and these clowns I delt with today are nothing special.
Yes and you are right. These folks are very typical. You have to wade through a lot of crap interviews to even find a candidate who MIGHT work out. Figure hundreds of interviews to find that typical 'round peg in the round hole' prospective employee. Then when you do, be prepared for the salary requirements to floor you.
Quoted for truth. Sadly.

Oh and please PLEASE check out their references.
 
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I *love it* when job applicants issue demands in an interview.

Depends on the industry and the level - I'm be amazed and surprised if some of the hires I've made didn't argue about the pay or benefits - It's just standard practice for people with specialist skills - mind you, the face to face interview tends to be the final thing after lots of other discussions.


Now junior positions... some of my tales include:

* The candidate who was chewing gum while telling me they would "represent my organisation professionally"
* The candidate who told me "not to believe those wankers at the old place"
* The candidate who wanted to know what percentage of the workforce was black ("don't trust em")
* The candidate who wanted their father to attend the interview with them :eek:
 
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