Countdown #3 official review thread [Spoilers]

[M'Sharak]

It is, but am I the only one finding it lame that it's actually called 'the Jellyfish'?

No, you're not. It does sound strange.

Given some of the nicknames which have been attached to real-world air and water craft over the years, both experimental models and production, I don't think it's all that strange. At least "Jellyfish" seems to describe its appearance, rather than its shortcomings (as is often the case with such nicknames.)

 

[miraclefan]

Neros borgified ship seems off - not sure if the whole ship is totally different, or just has the front end piece. The last couple of panels made it look like an all new ship....

I got the impression that Nero's ship was ''Assimulated'' by the BORG tech. Oh! and did any body else read the latest issue of ''Countdown'' more then twice? I did! (MAN! how come this couldent be a movie? it would have been ''much'' better then the last two movie's combined!)

 

[EyalM]

This issue answered a lot of questions: Nero's tattoos, the look of the Narada, Spock's ship.
One big question remains: How do Nero and Spock find themselves in the past?
I have a theory that Spock might be planning to travel back in time to prevent the destruction of Romulus. He did it once before (TVH), and it would explain why he wanted to be the one flying the "jellyfish". Nero was probably trying to stop Spock (believing Spock was trying to save Vulcan in the present) and got sucked back in time as well.

 

[Oso Blanco]

Vulcan having a Senate and a Praetor sill seems strange to me.

 

[Saul]

So when Nero's ship modified and how does a Mining ship get Borg Tech?

 

[SalvorHardin]

So when Nero's ship modified and how does a Mining ship get Borg Tech?

The entire Romulan ruling council managed to escape before Romulus was destroyed.
Nero, after witnessing the destruction, beams them onboard, extracts information from them and murders them.
One piece of info he gets from the senators is the location and codes for a top secret, advanced military facility which would also be used as a safe haven for the High council in cases of severe threats to the homeworld.

Nero goes there, lies about the senators' fate, gives the codes and is allowed to enter the facility.
Commander of the facility D'Spal shows him some of the weapons they have been working on which are retrofitted Borg technology applied to Romulan designs.
The new tech supposedly gives to a ship superior warp, cloacking and sensor capabilities beyond the Federations wildest dreams.
It also has the ability to learn. It has self-repairing nanotechnology which also anticipates potential threats and modifies systems accordingly, growing the ship to adapt.

D'Spal tells Nero that she will use his vessel as a prototype for the technology and so Nero eventually gets an updated Narada

 

[Johnnymuffintop]

Probably a dumb question, but can I find the Countdown comic online anywhere?

My local comic shop closed about a year ago... :'(

 

[SalvorHardin]

Probably a dumb question, but can I find the Countdown comic online anywhere?

My local comic shop closed about a year ago... :'(

I assume you can buy them from places like Amazon.
Or IDW's website http://www.idwpublishing.com/catalog/series/35/

 

[Timofnine]

Neros borgified ship seems off - not sure if the whole ship is totally different, or just has the front end piece. The last couple of panels made it look like an all new ship....

The Narada grows and adapts like a Borg ship. This is the Narada when it is first converted. I assume that by the time of the movie it has grown in to what we see in the trailers. Maybe we'll even see it grow in the film.

 

[Michael]

It is, but am I the only one finding it lame that it's actually called 'the Jellyfish'?

No, you're not. It does sound strange.

Given some of the nicknames which have been attached to real-world air and water craft over the years, both experimental models and production, I don't think it's all that strange. At least "Jellyfish" seems to describe its appearance, rather than its shortcomings (as is often the case with such nicknames.)

I agree that it is not at all strange to nickname a vessel with a colloquial name. It's just that I think that "Jellyfish" sounds strange. I'm not able to put a finger on something specific, but I guess its strangeness is rooted in the mere phonetic of the word.

 

[Franklin]

No, you're not. It does sound strange.

Given some of the nicknames which have been attached to real-world air and water craft over the years, both experimental models and production, I don't think it's all that strange. At least "Jellyfish" seems to describe its appearance, rather than its shortcomings (as is often the case with such nicknames.)

I agree that it is not at all strange to nickname a vessel with a colloquial name. It's just that I think that "Jellyfish" sounds strange. I'm not able to put a finger on something specific, but I guess its strangeness is rooted in the mere phonetic of the word.

Calling someone a "jellyfish" isn't exactly a complement, either. Also, jellyfish are rather fragile and ephemeral structures, aren't they? So given the kind of ship it's supposed to be, incredibly rugged and can go anywhere, maybe there's some irony in the name?

 

[Michael]

Given some of the nicknames which have been attached to real-world air and water craft over the years, both experimental models and production, I don't think it's all that strange. At least "Jellyfish" seems to describe its appearance, rather than its shortcomings (as is often the case with such nicknames.)

I agree that it is not at all strange to nickname a vessel with a colloquial name. It's just that I think that "Jellyfish" sounds strange. I'm not able to put a finger on something specific, but I guess its strangeness is rooted in the mere phonetic of the word.

Calling someone a "jellyfish" isn't exactly a complement, either. Also, jellyfish are rather fragile and ephemeral structures, aren't they? So given the kind of ship it's supposed to be, incredibly rugged and can go anywhere, maybe there's some irony in the name?

But can't jellyfish also be quite poisonous? That sounds like a rather strong attribute, doesn't it?

 

[Franklin]

I agree that it is not at all strange to nickname a vessel with a colloquial name. It's just that I think that "Jellyfish" sounds strange. I'm not able to put a finger on something specific, but I guess its strangeness is rooted in the mere phonetic of the word.

Calling someone a "jellyfish" isn't exactly a complement, either. Also, jellyfish are rather fragile and ephemeral structures, aren't they? So given the kind of ship it's supposed to be, incredibly rugged and can go anywhere, maybe there's some irony in the name?

But can't jellyfish also be quite poisonous? That sounds like a rather strong attribute, doesn't it?

Yeah. But aren't they also mostly passive and otherwise weak? I think we're giving it more thought than the authors of the comic did. "Hey, that looks like a jellyfish. Let's call it the Jellyfish." "OK, Jellyfish it is. Let's move on."

 

[Michael]

^ Yeah, I guess you are right.

 

[EJA]

I am really, REALLY glad I started buying this series; it's utterly brilliant. Even if the movie sucks, we still have this.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The Jellyfish is one of the most intriguing and attractive Trek ship designs in decades - at least, this drawing of it is. Wonder if it was designed by Church?

Interesting that when they get away from revamping old Trek designs these folks soar. Here's hoping that in future movies we see more "Jellyfish" design and fewer traditional nacelles-and-hull knockoffs.

Some jellyfish, BTW, are able to withstand water pressure at depths that would crush human beings and kill many other creatures.

 

[Kemaiku]

Apart from the awful name, it is a great design and from the looks of the film snippets we've seen featuring it it looks pretty good in CGI too.

And as much as I loathe the super ship idea again and the Borg implications, the Narada is one of the best things about the new film, its giving a very V'ger-ish impression, scale, menace and sheer alien design.

Oddly enough the new Enterprise is the only ship design I don't like in this film.

 

[Michael]

I agree, the "Jellyfish" is one of the most imaginative designs coming out of this thus far.

 

[BorgPhil]

This issue answered a lot of questions: Nero's tattoos, the look of the Narada, Spock's ship.
One big question remains: How do Nero and Spock find themselves in the past?
I have a theory that Spock might be planning to travel back in time to prevent the destruction of Romulus. He did it once before (TVH), and it would explain why he wanted to be the one flying the "jellyfish". Nero was probably trying to stop Spock (believing Spock was trying to save Vulcan in the present) and got sucked back in time as well.

I don't think the time-travel is going to be intentional. When Spock tries to destroy the Hobus star, I reckon something will happen that will throw the Jellyfish and the Narada back in time.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if that was the cliff-hanger at the end of #4 that the writers talked about, with the film opening with the Narada appearing right on top of the Kelvin.​

 

[fleetcaptain]

After I read this post yesterday, I went back and viewed both trailers released recently. I was wondering what that ship was that was shown. Now that I see its the Jellyfish, gets me wondering if Spock will die when it crashes into Nero's ship. Now I need to try to get Issue 3 after spoiling myself on here. I'm hoping if I get a chance this weekend, that at least one comic shop will have a few issues left. Also explains why I was confused after seeing Trailer 3 why Nero's ship looked so different from the Countdown miniseries. Hopefully when the TPB comes out, there will be some sketches at least showing the design history.