A USS Kelvin Complaint Nobody's Made Yet...

[Admiral Buzzkill]

There was no reason to try to make it fit. It shouldn't HAVE to fit in order to be relevant to those open-minded enough to give it its fair shake.

Exactly so.

You know what all of this fuss is really about?

Read the smartest thing ever posted to the Internet about "canon" in pop culture.

Now then:

This movie does more than challenge the illusion of authority that some folks have wrapped up their opinions and preferences and prejudices in; it will probably smash that illusion flat and scatter the pieces on the wind.

That's freaking some folks out.

 

[Qonos]

Explain, then, the registries with prefixes like NX, NAR, NSP, etc.

NX is easy Naval eXperiment.

NAR and NSP I have no idea.

 

[Captain Robert April]

"N" = Federation (no weirder than the real world model it's based on, where "N" = United States).

"CC" = Starfleet

"X" = Experimental design

"AR" = Civilian research vessel, Earth registry

"SP" = Vulcan ship

G'head, look 'em up.

 

[JuanBolio]

"N" = Federation (no weirder than the real world model it's based on, where "N" = United States).

"CC" = Starfleet

"X" = Experimental design

"AR" = Civilian research vessel, Earth registry

"SP" = Vulcan ship

G'head, look 'em up.

The only ones common enough to matter are NCC and NX. The rest can be tossed, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

The only ones common enough to matter are NCC and NX. The rest can be tossed, as far as I'm concerned.

Sure, toss 'em. Problem solved.

 

[Cary L. Brown]

"N" = Federation (no weirder than the real world model it's based on, where "N" = United States).

"CC" = Starfleet

"X" = Experimental design

"AR" = Civilian research vessel, Earth registry

"SP" = Vulcan ship

G'head, look 'em up.

Thing is, you can "look 'em up" and find a hundred different unofficial explanations. There are no "official" ones, so these are no more, or less, valid than anyone elses.

All we know for sure is that Jeffries chose it largely at random, based up the tail number of his own aircraft.

 

[Quagmire58]

"N" = Federation (no weirder than the real world model it's based on, where "N" = United States).

"CC" = Starfleet

"X" = Experimental design

"AR" = Civilian research vessel, Earth registry

"SP" = Vulcan ship

G'head, look 'em up.

Or again with the real world model CV stands for Aircraft Carrier, CVN stands for Air Craft Carrier Nuclear Powered, CVA Attack Aircraft Carrier, and CVS AntiSubmarine Aircraft Carrier.

Your explaination of the future military, sounds as good as the present day US navy.

 

[Herkimer Jitty]

Captain Robau is a badass.

If he wants to have a 0 in the registry, then there's a 0 in the registry.

He's that badass.

 

[Meredith]

The NX-01 went to warp with just one nacelle once.....

 

[cooleddie74]

"Naval Construction Contract" was how it was described by Franz Joseph back in 1974... "Best Destiny" didn't come along til, what, 1990?

HUH???

Perhaps, but at my age I don't remember seeing that definition of NCC's meaning until BEST DESTINY came into my field of view. If it's been around longer, cool. More ammo to consider it semi-canon.

 

[holmes]

Ok folks, I think I've got your answer. A warp field requires paired warp coils. The number of nacelles is irrelevent as a pair of coils can be house in one nacelle( enterprise-d has 4 coils, enterprise-e has 4 coils, enterprise(constitution) has 2) the alternate future enterprise-d has 6 coils and so does the uss federation ncc-2100. The nacelles are not engines, they only serve to keep a warp field stable. A ship can go to warp with one nacelle working( a runabout did it on ds9- season one or two- but not with an odd number of coils. I'm betting the kelvin has a pair of coils in the one nacelle. There is an alternative to coils tho I don't know the jargon. The Vulcan vessels on Enterprise have a ring instead of nacelles and so does the uss enterprise cvx-330 declaration class, which is non-canon but follows Vulcan logic and I wouldn't argue logic with a Vulcan.

 

[Michael]

^ Wow! How did you find that thread?

 

[SalvorHardin]

Almost 4 months...is that a necromancy record ?

Anyway, welcome aboard cadet holmes

 

[Michael]

Almost 4 months...is that a necromancy record ?

Not even close, I'm afraid.

 

[SalvorHardin]

Almost 4 months...is that a necromancy record ?

Not even close, I'm afraid.

Any idea how long the record might be ?

 

[Michael]

Almost 4 months...is that a necromancy record ?

Not even close, I'm afraid.

Any idea how long the record might be ?

I've seen threads revived that were several years old. I don't have definite figures, though.

 

[dave_R_treker]

Not even close, I'm afraid.

Any idea how long the record might be ?

I've seen threads revived that were several years old. I don't have definite figures, though.

3 years, 6 months, 17 days, 9 hours, and 32 minutes

 

[Michael]

Any idea how long the record might be ?

I've seen threads revived that were several years old. I don't have definite figures, though.

3 years, 6 months, 17 days, 9 hours, and 32 minutes

Really? Which thread was that?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Or at least, not that I'm aware of. The ship only has one warp nacelle. This is in blatant defiance of Roddenberry's Rules of Starship Design...

So much the worse for Roddenberry and his "rules."

He didn't design the Enterprise, after all; why should he have the last word on how these things are put together (quick answer: he didn't)?

 

[Captain Robert April]

^ Another quick answer: His show, his rules.