I just saw the new trailer! (Spoilers? Well, yes!)
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That was epic. To say this movie looks good, would be a understatement. This is the Star Trek film i have been waiting for. It gave me chills, and i wanted to cry it was so good.
Interesting.... Looks good, although Vulcan imploding into a singularity is rather dumb and stupid; however, I can only hope it looks better on the real screen.
Id also say Urhua, "I hope you know what your doing", line is rather wooden and lame, but i think thats the context in which we hear it and not the actual scene.
Although Kirk taking the bridge is as stupid as possible. The only saving grace there will be is Spock gets he ass kicked in by Kirk and he isnt able to take command and everyone else is like WTF... What happened to the captain and the first officer?
Id also say Urhua, "I hope you know what your doing", line is rather wooden and lame, but i think thats the context in which we hear it and not the actual scene.
Although Kirk taking the bridge is as stupid as possible. The only saving grace there will be is Spock gets he ass kicked in by Kirk and he isnt able to take command and everyone else is like WTF... What happened to the captain and the first officer?
Except, of course, that what little we know about the plot indicates that Pike places Spock in command and assigns him Kirk as his acting first officer before beaming over to the Narada.
And Spock is, notably, nowhere to be seen in these shots. Bits and pieces that have been synopsized elsewhere suggest that he is on Vulcan rescuing the High Council.
So the real question of plausibility here is not how Kirk assumes command, but how far off his rocker Spock has to be to have abandoned it.
And Spock is, notably, nowhere to be seen in these shots. Bits and pieces that have been synopsized elsewhere suggest that he is on Vulcan rescuing the High Council.
So the real question of plausibility here is not how Kirk assumes command, but how far off his rocker Spock has to be to have abandoned it.
And yet McCoy says "we have no one to take command".. What are they idiots? I understand the plot point, but yet why such a glairing issue.
It was a great trialer and I think it will be a great movie, but these little things stand out alot when you have less to compare it to.
Hell why is Sulu even there anyway, he shouldn't evne be there until the second movie... ok, thats crazy talk, but you understand.
That is a good point; however, from looking at that trailer there cant be many people from vulcan to save. Otherwise Spock should have beamed over to the collector...err... laser ship, and blow it up.
Its one of those choose your own adventure text books.
choice a). everyone dies
choice b). you save the planet.
I think i'll pick a.
Looks great, the planet implosion was a good effect. The chrome shifting lever they used to go to warp seemed a bit cartoony, but other than that everything looks very big.
I'm not sure I understand why the whole chain of command on the Enterprise seems to have dissolved like smoke, hopefully they make it halfway plausible.
I'm not sure I understand why the whole chain of command on the Enterprise seems to have dissolved like smoke, hopefully they make it halfway plausible.
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Kirk isn't qualified to do anything more than observe - he's a cadet, not a commissioned officer. Which brings up the other issue, enlisting, means enlisting, as in he'd be a crewman if he enlisted.
It is a plot point that makes me roll my eyes though, as there's a whole bunch of officers on the bridge who would be in the chain of command, not just the captain and the XO. I presume Pike and Spock do the stupid thing by leading an away team themselves which put them in that position to begin with.
That's another thing that bothers me - Spock acting so un-Vulcan like. He's violent when he should be calm and collected. I guess it could be a fake-out, similar to how it looked like Tigh shot Adama in the eye in the S4 premier, but I can't say the storyline that's been revealed looks very promising, even without taking the look of the movie into account. It has an epic feeling to it, but in a way so did Lost in Space and Planet of the Apes.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/startreknews.php?id=53507[Link removed. Please do not post links to unauthorized copies of the trailer]
In case anyone wants to see it...
In case anyone wants to see it...
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Its been not so subtly implied by everyone involved that Spock is not yet at a point in his life that he has gained full reign over his emotions, which in many ways hearkens back to "The Cage" and his shouting for no good reason there.
According to previewed footage Older Spock encourages Kirk to push his younger selfs buttons, have McCoy declare young Spock unfit and take command of "His ship". At least taht's how I recall it being detailed in threads past on the four or so segments Abrams had been touring with.
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Mhmm... let me guess... The Captain that wasn't?
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Wow, that's pretty stupid and fucked up at the same time. The CMO and a cadet conspire together to make the ship's XO have an emotional breakdown in order to place him in command, the rub being that a cadet never should have been able to take command of a ship to begin with, as he'd be outside of the chain of command, and unqualified as he is not a commissioned officer. Not to mention the ship's existing chain of command, which means there would be a 3IC, 4IC, etc. Even without that, ever commissioned officer on that ship is more qualified to command the ship than Cadet Kirk is.
To which I say:
Phooey.
The trailer felt awesome.
I couldn't care less about real military protocol as it applies to Star Trek. Lord knows that the various Trek writers over the years haven't given a toss either.
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Pfft! Yeah, realism, who needs any of that?
I thought that was the reason for doing a reboot to begin with.
Where's Stalnoivolk when you need him?
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