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Batman: The Brave and the Bold scheduling and production news

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Batman: The Brave and the Bold will go straight into airing its next batch of 13 episodes after "Game Over for Owlman!" this Friday. The schedule for the next three episodes is:

March 6th - "Game Over for Owlman!"
March 13th - "Mystery in Space!" (featuring Aquaman and Adam Strange)
March 20th - "Trials of the Demon!" (featuring Etrigan the Demon)

And now for the big news: Comics Continuum reports that Michael Jelenic, one of the producers of the series, said at WonderCon (while promoting Wonder Woman) that Cartoon Network has ordered another 26 episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold and that Warners is now starting production on that further order. So the series will run for at least 52 episodes. :techman:
 
And now for the big news: Comics Continuum reports that Michael Jelenic, one of the producers of the series, said at WonderCon (while promoting Wonder Woman) that Cartoon Network has ordered another 26 episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold and that Warners is now starting production on that further order. So the series will run for at least 52 episodes. :techman:

Woo Hoo! I'm glad to see this show will get to spread it wings some more. However, I was bummed a bit to hear that Tucker isn't dying to use Superman; so we may end up not seeing big blue represented. :(
 
And now for the big news: Comics Continuum reports that Michael Jelenic, one of the producers of the series, said at WonderCon (while promoting Wonder Woman) that Cartoon Network has ordered another 26 episodes of Batman: The Brave and the Bold and that Warners is now starting production on that further order. So the series will run for at least 52 episodes. :techman:

Woo Hoo! I'm glad to see this show will get to spread it wings some more. However, I was bummed a bit to hear that Tucker isn't dying to use Superman; so we may end up not seeing big blue represented. :(

I wouldn't be surprised if some kind of series finale had all the 'obvious' characters. For now, I'd much rather see the obscure, and the never-before-animated, or at least the not-recently-animated. I could see B&B adapting the Cobalt Blue War from Flash, giving room for plenty of guests who've never been off the comics page. DC's Silver Age alone has tons of people. Dial H, Atomic Knights---the mind frankly boggles.

The one I'd like to see : A legion of alter-Earth Batmen helping B&B-Bats fight back one of Owlman's schemes. Each one is a TV/Movie variant, including Adam West and Kevin Conroy---hell, see if Keaton wants a go. After Owlman is wrapped up, one of the others goes all potty-mouth, pissing off the others enough to toss him through a portal. As they heave-ho, he shouts 'You bleeped can't do this to me! I'm the bleeped Batman!', to which B&B responds : "Frankly, some Knights are too Dark for their own good. Hope he never returns."
 
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Nice. :lol:

I'm glad to hear the show's doing well. I've come to really enjoy it--not quite as much as I loved JLU, but still quite a bit. It fascinates me to see a throwback 'fun' Batman having so much success in the wake of The Dark Knight. I kind of hope this show might demonstrate to DC/Warner suit-types that, although a 'dark' approach certainly can work with their properties, so can a lighter touch.

I love seeing obscure characters show up, too. I wonder what other possibilities might be in the pipeline? Part of me wonders if we might get some of the DC war characters somewhere along the line... not just the obvious Sgt. Rock, but maybe the Haunted Tank or the Unknown Soldier or the Losers... maybe even the Creature Commandos (though it might be tough to find the right tone for a WWII-type story on this show--you wouldn't want to make war into a fun, light romp and yet you can't make things too dark or realistic in a family-oriented show).

I have mixed feelings about the hesitation to use Superman. I can understand it, and I'd probably rather see other characters who have less exposure. But the possibilities inherent in this show's approach and how it could apply to Superman are vast. Imagine seeing a very Silver Age, very Mort Weisinger-flavored Superman... imagine a depiction of the World's Finest Team as the staunchest of friends and partners rather than rehashing the Frank Miller Superman/Batman rivalry for the umpteenth time. Not just the return of the Superman/Batman Team but also the Olsen/Robin Team and the Luthor/Joker Team... I think a lot of fun could be had.

I really hope to see a good Flash team-up sometime... and, of course, I'd really love to see Batman journey a thousand years into the future to meet the Legion (big surprise there, eh?)

--g
 
Yeah, I have to admit I got this one wrong.

I was initially very hard on this show because it lacked a certain depth and complexity, but as it has gone on and found its feet, the lack of depth and complexity plays into its charm. It will never be one of the great animated shows, but it is a fun ride and a great introduction to the DCU for the younger set while still nodding to those who know the DCU well.

Glad to hear it was renewed for more episodes.
 
Hey did anyone else notice that in the previews for the next episode Owlman looks like he's wearing the 1930s Batsuit.
 
Paul Dini has written an episode with a team up with Bat-Mate. The Producers are being secretive about who voices him. Its a big name and they are saving his reveal until its closer to air.

Any guesses? Unless its a big name comedian I am thinking someone with a history with Batman. Maybe even a previous Batman actor? It would a a fun twist considering Bat-mite is an annoying fan of Batman.
 
Bat-Mite, of course. :rommie:

Despite being skeptical about this show at first, I've come to love it. Like the rest of you, I think this should hopefully help prove 'lighter' doesn't have to mean 'simple' and vis a vis 'darker' doesn't mean 'better.'

I do still think they go a bit overboard with Batman's transforming suit gadgets for my taste, though. (Cape to jetpack? Belt to lightsaber?) It's still rather funny, and truly the unique takes on the guest stars are what make it. I think also they've effectively proven that for the most part the Silver Age versions of the characters are not as silly as some seem to think they are when treated with respect.

I wonder what the odds of getting the Martian Manhunter on the show are? I'd love a Silver Age J'Onn. I'd like to see Superman eventually too. I bet Wonder Woman can't be used due to that weird copyright on her where she has to 'star' or whatever. Flash and the Legion almost have to be on there, methinks. I wonder what the odds are of Robin showing up?

Gojirob, I love the 'Batmen of Many Universes' idea.
 
Any guesses? Unless its a big name comedian I am thinking someone with a history with Batman. Maybe even a previous Batman actor? It would a a fun twist considering Bat-mite is an annoying fan of Batman.
I've been assuming it's Adam West.
I bet Wonder Woman can't be used due to that weird copyright on her where she has to 'star' or whatever.
Yeah, that's still in place. She appeared on the cover of the first issue of the tie-in comic DC is producing, so I imagine she'll show up there.
 
I'm not sure about Adam West as Bat-Mite but if Mayor West on 'Family Guy' is a good indicator, I see how it could work.

Captain Canada
, you seem to know a lot about Wonder Woman. Could you explain the copyright thing to me? I've never really understood it beyond the fact that it exists.
 
The other possibility I thought of was Michael Keaton, since he was Beetlejuice, though that's not really like Bat-Mite.

As to the WW copyright issue, a lot of this is supposition based on circumstantial evidence, but here's what I've put together over the years:

1941 - William Marston creates Wonder Woman and leases the rights to National Comics (a sister-company to Detective Comics which was folded into DC later). Under this arrangement, which persisted after Marston's death in 1947, when the rights passed to his wife Elizabeth and the third part of their menage a trois, Olive Byrne, DC would have the right to Wonder Woman so long as they published four issues of her comic per year (which is, incidentally, why she was the third and only superhero to keep her title during le grand noirceur that was the 1950s). Under this deal, likewise, she can make guest appearances elsewhere, pending clearance from the owners.

1986 - Continuity reboot, and while George Perez and co. are working on the new volume, they're in danger of losing the copyright, so Kurt Busiek (then a newcomer) is drafted with doing a four-issue out-of-continuity miniseries to fill the gap and keep the rights in play. The new Wonder Woman volume launches in 1987.

1988 - Wonder Woman makes her final guest appearance on another show when she appears in an episode of the Ruby Spears-produced Superboy cartoon of that period.

Now, according to Kurt Busiek in an interview he gave once, at some point after the 1986 miniseries he wrote, DC cut a deal with the Marston estate to permanently sell the rights to Wonder Woman to DC. From that point on, they own the character.

The big speculation, based on circumstantial evidence (and a creator statement, which I'll get to) is that, as a condition of the purchase, perhaps to insure that the character would be treated with respect in other media, the Marstons insisted on a clause where she would not be used as a guest star, only as a star.

2000 - Batman Beyond does a Justice League episode, and they want to use Wonder Woman, but are told that they can't. Paul Dini commented in an interview that there was a bunch of red tape and that they could do a series about her (which they didn't want to), but, for some reason, not as a guest star. Big Barda is substituted for Diana in the episode in question.

2001 - Justice League launches, and, since she's part of the main cast, Diana appears for the first time.

2001-2005 - JL/U runs, and, concurrently, there are several crossovers with Static Shock, the other Timm cartoon of the period; Diana is the only member of the original lineup who does not appear.

2003-2006 - In a rather interesting development, the production team for DC's Teen Titans anime-inspired series is told that they can't use Wonder Girl as a guest star either; Wonder Girl isn't a Marston creation (she dates to the Bob Haney Teen Titans era), so it seems the ban extends to the whole mythos (which makes a certain amount of sense, since she's clearly a derivative).

2007-2008 - The Batman does a fifth season that's almost nothing but JLA guest appearances, and Wonder Woman does not appear (no women at all appear, even, but that's another story).

Based on the timeline of her appearances and Busiek and Dini's statements, the general supposition is that the change in status came with the terms of sale.
 
Thanks, Cap. :)

Crap, that's a lot to process. That's even more convoluted than I thought. I didn't know that the actual truth of it was so unknown. I can respect their intention, but overall it seems like it ultimately hurts the character from a lack of the same exposure that her male counterparts get, even if it keeps her from being team secretary all the time.
 
:pYeah, Yeah, Yeah... BAT -MITE !!!! How could I miss that?

I also was thinking Adam West or Michael Keaton. I prefer Michael Keaton. West has returned to Batman many times over the years but Keaton never has. He would be awesome in the part too!

How about Kevin Conroy though? Very versatile actor and all the fans would love his presence on the show.
 
I feel like it has to be Adam West. Think about it. As has been mentioned, West has done guest spots in other Batman animation projects in the last couple decades (Grey Ghost in B:TAS, Mayor whatsisname in The Batman). And his stint as Mayor West shows that he's up for something a bit fun and bizarre. Heck, he's even familiar with Bat-Mite from the 70's Filmation series. Plus you've got the generally 60's Batman tone of TB&TB to consider.

I really, really hope this turns out to be the case. Dini + West + Bat-Mite on TB&TB... that's too awesome even to contemplate...

--k
 
1988 - Wonder Woman makes her final guest appearance on another show when she appears in an episode of the Ruby Spears-produced Superboy cartoon of that period.

You're conflating two different 1988 Super-shows. The Ruby-Spears animated series was Superman. The Superboy series that premiered that year was a live-action syndicated show.


The big speculation, based on circumstantial evidence (and a creator statement, which I'll get to) is that, as a condition of the purchase, perhaps to insure that the character would be treated with respect in other media, the Marstons insisted on a clause where she would not be used as a guest star, only as a star.

Which I think has done more to hurt the character than help her, because it's reduced her visibility. Guest-star spots can do a lot to boost awareness of a character. Marvel's Blade was a pretty obscure character until he was given a few guest appearances in the '90s Spider-Man animated series, and he then went on to get a series of movies and a TV show of his own. The presence of Green Arrow on JLU and Smallville has no doubt increased awareness of that character.
 
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Here are some images from "Mystery in Space!" that World's Finest has up:

The Question:

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Adam Strange:

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Very cool! :techman:
 
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