The article with photograph is here:
http://www.newscientist.com/article...ter-may-have-been-spotted-on-mars.html?page=1
http://www.newscientist.com/article...ter-may-have-been-spotted-on-mars.html?page=1
Photo of liquid water on Mars - maybe
- Thread starter Admiral Buzzkill
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Nope, they think this is liquid water.
All Seeing Eye
Admiral
Just out of curiosity, have we dug down deep into Mars? I mean really deep? who's to say there isn't some kind of water table like there is on Earth? you go to some of the harshest deserts on Earth but if you dig down deep enough you have water. I honestly believe beneath the Marsian surface there's enormous amounts of water that long ago drained into the ground and froze as temperatures on Mars dropped.
^^ I may be wrong but I think Phoenix dug the deepest of the probes we've sent. I can see them waiting a few months to make sure they were right, however I am a firm believer that if a six-legged critter w/ a snout were found on Mars they'd take longer to publish that.
Sorry to hear you wont be having any more.
We probably wouldn't hear about life until it took us over. I for one welcome our hydrated overlords.
Consider the premature excitement over ALH84001, I think taking the proper time to verify any such finds is warranted.
3D Master
Rear Admiral
Oh, whoopy, there's liquid water on mars. What a shocker, I never exp-...
Uh, well, apart from those pictures of the Mars polar ice cap on NASA's own website from between 1995-1997 where it just shrinks to less than half it's size - aka MELTED.
So everyone should have known since an entire decade ago that there was liquid water on Mars - unless NASA wants to claim it was aliens beaming up ice that they needed.
Uh, well, apart from those pictures of the Mars polar ice cap on NASA's own website from between 1995-1997 where it just shrinks to less than half it's size - aka MELTED.
So everyone should have known since an entire decade ago that there was liquid water on Mars - unless NASA wants to claim it was aliens beaming up ice that they needed.
Ice sublimates on Mars rather than melting.
No sensors on the underside of the probe, just a camera.
3D Master
Rear Admiral
Uhuh, sure, because an entire pole gets sublimate in the atmosphere without leaving any trace of it in that atmosphere.
No. There's water vapor in the atmosphere of Mars. Not much, but some. The find is interesting because liquid water has not been observed at the surface before. Is this really that difficult to understand? Or are you just looking to mock it for some reason?
3D Master
Rear Admiral
There always was water vapor in the atmosphere, the amount of water vapor hasn't changed since half the pole "sublimated".Which begs the question; if water sublimates on Mars, how come they're wondering there's liquid water now?
Because water on Mars doesn't sublimate, and Nasa scientists are a bunch of idiots.
I don't post here often enough to know whether you're actually a crackpot or just having some fun, 3D Master.
Assuming you're serious about your derision, you should look up a phase diagram of water. You'll see that at martian conditions, ice will move directly into the vapor phase - that's sublimation. Do you not believe the process occurs on Mars?
By the way, the Phoenix lander program was actually headed by the University of Arizona, not NASA or JPL. If you're going to mock the scientists studying the data, at least mock the right group.
Maybe I'm just taking you too seriously, though.
Assuming you're serious about your derision, you should look up a phase diagram of water. You'll see that at martian conditions, ice will move directly into the vapor phase - that's sublimation. Do you not believe the process occurs on Mars?
By the way, the Phoenix lander program was actually headed by the University of Arizona, not NASA or JPL. If you're going to mock the scientists studying the data, at least mock the right group.
Maybe I'm just taking you too seriously, though.
3D Master
Rear Admiral
If the process occurred on Mars, there wouldn't be any droplets of the stuff on the lander, now would there? The process does not occur on Mars.
Potato, potato.
Same diff.
When it comes to astronomy, and planetary science I have a seriously dim view of scientists. They're not scientists, really, but priest in the cult that is scientific dogma.
The idiots even claim they would love to have something that proves one the existing theories false, and then happily explain the idiocy that is Dark Matter - aka the figment of their imaginations - the round block for the square hole - they produced to try and keep General Theory of Relativity true.
