Atlantis found?

[smithaa02]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2255989.ece

An individual browsing google ocean found what appears to be a city grid. You can see a picture in the article.

Pretty intriguing because you rarely 90 degree angles in nature.

 

[Zulu Romeo]

Here's what the BBC made of it... back in 2004:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3766863.stm

And later that year:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4011545.stm

Looks quite different.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Why is this bernie bloke getting credit for it? I noticed that bloody ages ago. Just because I didn't go swanning off to the newspapers over a few lines on the ocean floor from google earth. I bet a few thousand other people noticed it before he did too. I mean have you seen the size of the lines? it's completely unmissable.

 

[Deckerd]

I suspect the Sun picture may have been 'enhanced'.

 

[Vance]

Two ridges on a hill... it's a perfect match! Well, shit, if that's all it takes to find Atlantis, there's a few thousand of them along the Colorado Front Range right here. Who knew?

 

[Zulu Romeo]

What really surprised me (well, to be honest it didn't really ) was that The Sun saw fit to run with a story (and a front page headline too) about someone finding something rather unusual in a computer simulation program. Something that could very well even be a hidden easter egg by the creators. A clever way to sell papers... or has the editor been had?

Next: woman finds Holy Grail hidden in "The Sims 2".

 

[QuasarVM]

I don't buy it.

The so-called Atlantis site in the Sun article doesn't even match Plato's description of the place.

As Vreenak would say -- "It's a FAAAAAAKE!!!!"

 

[RobertScorpio]

I don't buy it.

The so-called Atlantis site in the Sun article doesn't even match Plato's description of the place.

As Vreenak would say -- "It's a FAAAAAAKE!!!!"

I'm with you. I think I have a more logical take on those markings on the ocean floor. Its the scar from the Earth's hernia operation 4 billion years ago...

Rob
Scorpio

 

[All Seeing Eye]

I suspect the Sun picture may have been 'enhanced'.

Go on google Earth, it's clear as day, quite large and you don't even have to zoom in very far to see it.

 

[Romulan_spy]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2255989.ece

An individual browsing google ocean found what appears to be a city grid. You can see a picture in the article.

Pretty intriguing because you rarely 90 degree angles in nature.

Everybody knows the real Atlantis is in the Pegaus galaxy.

 

[PlixTixiplik]

Congratulations to The Sun - they've discovered fracture zones in the ocean crust!

Fracture zones are an inevitable consequence of trying to bend a fairly rigid plate (the ocean crust) around a spherical object (the earth's surface). They are found in the ocean crust worldwide.

 

[Scout101]

Honestly, the prominent mention of Patrick Duffy is more entertaining (and accurate) than the Atlantis bit...

 

[Starbreaker]

It's Scuzzlebutt!!!

 

[smithaa02]

Here's what the BBC made of it... back in 2004:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/3766863.stm

And later that year:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4011545.stm

Looks quite different.

Just to be clear, your first article was about possible evidence of an ancient civilization off Cyprus and your second article was about possible evidence of an ancient civilization on the Spanish mainland. This is a completely different photo. Even if any of these were evidence of non-Atlantian civilizations, they would still be impressive.

 

[smithaa02]

Congratulations to The Sun - they've discovered fracture zones in the ocean crust!

Fracture zones are an inevitable consequence of trying to bend a fairly rigid plate (the ocean crust) around a spherical object (the earth's surface). They are found in the ocean crust worldwide.

It doesn't look anything like a fracture zone. Here is the image in question:

Notice how isolated the main grid is and contained in an overall square? If this were a fracture zone you won't see that. Also the corners are a very sharp 90 degrees, which you very rarily see in nature. Fracture zones may have rough 90 degree angles but nothing this precise or prolific in such a small area. Also fracture zones tend to form small T's when they break and we're really not seeing that here.

 

[Vance]

Ignoring that two articles are using two completely different things to say the same thing, and you're saying bother are true...

The idea that it was just a farm village from early civilization when the Mediterranean was lower is impossible to reconcile? The northern part of Libya is littered with these things. But, no, rather than something mundane and easily explainable, it HAS to be Atlantis!

 

[smithaa02]

Ignoring that two articles are using two completely different things to say the same thing, and you're saying bother are true...

The idea that it was just a farm village from early civilization when the Mediterranean was lower is impossible to reconcile? The northern part of Libya is littered with these things. But, no, rather than something mundane and easily explainable, it HAS to be Atlantis!

This puppy is 3 and half miles underwater in the Atlantic Ocean which puts it in a different league then all those shallow water Mediterranean finds we hear about. Again this might not be Atlantis proper, but still would represent an impressive archeological find if it represented a lost civilization this deep underwater.

 

[PlixTixiplik]

I went into Google earth and it doesn't appear to be fracture zones (not in the right place). In fact, it is a human artifact!!!

I would guess they are side-scan sonar runs from ODP leg 157. The ocean bathymetry in Google Earth is built up from a variety of datasets that don't always match up precisely, so there are discrepancies. In particular, the broader bathymetry is interpolated from sparse datapoints (with a greater error), whereas the actual sonar runs would provide more accurate data for those particular strips. If you look at various other places around the ocean there are weird straight lines that are also artifacts.

Fortunately, ODP also drilled a couple of cores through "Atlantis" so you can see what is there. Site 952 is probably the closest. What a surprise - it's deep-water sediments! You can read more about the local bathymetry and view seismic profiles within the sediments (shockingly, no buildings are visible) at the ODP leg 157 scientific report.

But that should have been obvious from the beginning - this place is at 18000 feet and has been for millions of years. Unless it's an ancient civilization of mer-people..

 

[Zulu Romeo]

Google claim the mysterious lines are sonar "artefacts":

"It's true that many amazing discoveries have been made in Google Earth including a pristine forest in Mozambique that is home to previously unknown species and the remains of an Ancient Roman villa," a Google statement said.

"In this case, however, what users are seeing is an artefact of the data collection process. Bathymetric ( or sea floor terrain) data is often collected from boats using sonar to take measurements of the sea floor," she added.

"The lines reflect the path of the boat as it gathers the data. The fact there are blank spots between each of these lines is a sign of how little we really know about the world's oceans."

BBC News story (now 100% Patrick Duffy free!)

 

[All Seeing Eye]

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classical scholar Dr Peter Jones told the BBC: "Historically Atlantis is nonsense." He added that Plato was using a political allegory but also that he was very precise about the location of Atlantis. "It is an island in front of the straits of Gibraltar, and no such island exists," said Dr Jones. "This is pure invention. It's not history, it's not even myth, it is an allegory - a fabulous science-fiction superstate - a utopia, and ancient philosophers like Plato used allegories like this all the time."