Terminator-214 "The Good Wound" - Discuss/Grade <SPOILERS>
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Can I offer you a stick of Stride Gum? Then later some tickets to the STRIDE GUM sponsored concert.
I also have this kicking Ford MUSTANG with a scanner in front.
So so ep. We didn't find out what the flying HK was ( HK? Chopper? Hallucination? ). The state of the ware house, stockpiling coltan to make something later leads away from the HK theory. Still more questions raised and few answered... the frustration coefficient is creeping up. Think about it... Sarah's obsession with the three dots actually led somewhere but she doesn't know it!!
Best line: Sarah, "We're all lost time travelers" ( sorry about the paraphrase).
Since Kyle is a vision I can see Sarah reimagined him; it has been sixteen years after all. Michael Biehn was 28 when he starred in Terminator waaay back in '84 so a twenty something Kyle makes sense. I buy Lena Headey as Sarah even though she doesn't look much like Linda Hamilton, it is the strength of her portrayal that sells it. So a different looking Head Kyle isn't so bad, his behaivior is consistent and that's what counts.
Catherine Weaver kicking into Terminator mode was scary... she was really ticked she had to find out about her leaky security from John Henry... If /when she finds out it was Sarah Connor who first broke her cover this ep is going to mild by comparison.
What I can't figure out is the Jesse/ Riley dynamic; Jesse is no doubt ruthless enough to kill Riley now that Riley has become an obstacle to her plan. Jesse's mission is looking to be a hastily put together one that's falling apart. A loose cannon Riley is too dangerous to her plan to be allowed to survive. ( "uhhh, John, I'm from the future too and I'm supposed to destroy your relationship with your scary robot sister" )
Bottom line: the majority of the episodes are strong enough for me to forgive a slow moving/ doesn't go anywhere ep like this one.
Best line: Sarah, "We're all lost time travelers" ( sorry about the paraphrase).
Since Kyle is a vision I can see Sarah reimagined him; it has been sixteen years after all. Michael Biehn was 28 when he starred in Terminator waaay back in '84 so a twenty something Kyle makes sense. I buy Lena Headey as Sarah even though she doesn't look much like Linda Hamilton, it is the strength of her portrayal that sells it. So a different looking Head Kyle isn't so bad, his behaivior is consistent and that's what counts.
Catherine Weaver kicking into Terminator mode was scary... she was really ticked she had to find out about her leaky security from John Henry... If /when she finds out it was Sarah Connor who first broke her cover this ep is going to mild by comparison.
What I can't figure out is the Jesse/ Riley dynamic; Jesse is no doubt ruthless enough to kill Riley now that Riley has become an obstacle to her plan. Jesse's mission is looking to be a hastily put together one that's falling apart. A loose cannon Riley is too dangerous to her plan to be allowed to survive. ( "uhhh, John, I'm from the future too and I'm supposed to destroy your relationship with your scary robot sister" )
Bottom line: the majority of the episodes are strong enough for me to forgive a slow moving/ doesn't go anywhere ep like this one.
Connor's post-ENT record:
NCIS: Bad guy, dies.
Numb3rs: Good guy mistaken for bad guy, lives.
Close to Home: Good guy, lives.
SGA: Bad guy, briefly good guy, really bad guy, dies.
Without a Trace: Bad guy, lives.
Family Guy: horny guy, dies.
Criminal Minds: Good guy, probably lives (hard to tell because he falls off the screen the last 20 minutes of the ep
).Sarah Chronicles: Apparent good guy, actual bad guy, dies.
None of that necessarily means she is working for Skynet though. She coudl be setting up something for her own ends.
Decent episode this one, though no where near enough Summer Glau for my liking.
Coltan is also used in the construction of the HKs. It was said in this episode.
Nice continuity to Season One in this one too (i.e. Coltan).
I have to give Riley credit with this one though - she knows how to manipulate John or (potentially) Jesse with her actions. She knew that John felt guilty for not trying to stop Jordan when she killed herself and knew that she would be able to manipulate him by suicide. Cameron was nearby and she knew that they would find her in time.
Or she is manipulating Jesse into thinking that it was part of the plan and she really did want to die. Also likely because we've seen some of her outbursts in Season 2.0 (threatening her Foster Parent for example).
I misjudged Riley. I had assumed from the previous episode that she was not faking the suicide attempt at all. She seemed really bothered, but maybe that was also an act.
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I believe that weaver is NOT working for skynet. I think she is trying to setup either a smarter skynet or a better constructed intelligence to actually fight skynet. She may be the queen of the T-1000's and they are at odds with the standard skynet/T-101's. Wasnt it said somewhere that even skynet was afraid of the t-1000's?
Why should this be a problem?
Yup, it's not the "only" way. It's just the way this story happens to be unfolding.
If I recall in the 2nd movie, Arnold was NOT being taught morality by scripture. But by skateboarder ethics. See? There's room for it all.
Above Average. The guy playing Kyle was OK, but he should have shaved. Sarah is pretty bad-ass to be walking around with a bullet in her thigh. I give kudos to the doc for helping her.
Oh, and when Big Red got pissed
Oh, and when Big Red got pissed
I'm leaning towards this interpretation, though it might not be intentional manipulation, but rather Riley covering so that Jesse isn't too angry with her. We've already seen Jesse smack Riley around a bit, so I suspect Riley is scared of displeasing Jesse.
That said, I really don't like Jesse. I hope she pisses off Weaver in an upcoming episode.
Someone should really fix Hulu because they're still advertising the show as being on Mondays.
I think she may be going away. I believe she was only contracted for seven episodes.
Totally agreed here. There have been hints that more questions will be answered in future episodes, but at this rate I don't think they will be. Stentz has promised such things before and they don't really come through.
This episode didn't really do it for me. Too many cheesy references to T1. They almost seemed fanboyish the way they were repeating dialogue. Everything else seemed pointless, and a lot of the plot devices were really convoluted. The only interesting parts were with Weaver, I thought.
Yeah, those were my favorite parts, and I'd rather see a whole episode based on that than focusing on what they did. It's almost like that episode where they spent so much time with Sarah talking to pregnant neighbor girl.
Although John Henry playing with legos wasn't exactly gripping either. I get that they're trying to portray him as childlike, but for some reason those scenes seemed kinda lame for a super computer that will destroy half of humanity.
I was mostly interested in how exactly he could tell by Weaver's eyes that she was not human. You'd think there would've been a million other signs pointing to it.
Although John Henry playing with legos wasn't exactly gripping either. I get that they're trying to portray him as childlike, but for some reason those scenes seemed kinda lame for a super computer that will destroy half of humanity.
I was mostly interested in how exactly he could tell by Weaver's eyes that she was not human. You'd think there would've been a million other signs pointing to it.
^ Personality, her comments to her daughter's counselor that she enjoyed the smell of blood, the inability to smile.
Looking back at the John Henry scenes in the episode I did laugh a bit at them as Skynet was playing with the toys. I even commented on it from Weaver's perspective:
Looking back at the John Henry scenes in the episode I did laugh a bit at them as Skynet was playing with the toys. I even commented on it from Weaver's perspective: