So, I know there has been discussion/debate about why the Enterprise is being constructed on Earth (as suggested by the trailer), when it was supposed to be built at Utopia Planitia on Mars (or, was that only the Enterprise D, I can't remember now), but, has it been actually confirmed that what we are seeing in the trailer is Earth? I noticed that the scene with Kirk driving up to the Enterprise is actually shot on the basaltic sandur plains of Iceland. I've done quite a bit of field research there and recognize the terrain, it is very unique. If you're familiar with planetary science the Icelandic terrain is considered a fairly close analog to the basaltic terrain of Mars. Could we be seeing a modestly terraformed Mars surface in the trailer? Interesting that they shot that scene in Iceland, either way.
Iceland filming location for construction site of Enterprise?
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Re: Construction site of Enterprise, Star Trek XI
No.
The Enterprise is being built at the Starfleet yards in Riverside, Iowa. This has been confirmed by the writers and producers.
Previously, the ship had been assumed to have been built either at naval yards in San Francisco or in orbit somewhere (it's only Picard's Enterprise that had been mentioned as being built on Mars). The site of major construction is being established "canonically" for the first time.
No.
The Enterprise is being built at the Starfleet yards in Riverside, Iowa. This has been confirmed by the writers and producers.
Previously, the ship had been assumed to have been built either at naval yards in San Francisco or in orbit somewhere (it's only Picard's Enterprise that had been mentioned as being built on Mars). The site of major construction is being established "canonically" for the first time.
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Actually the Original Enterprise was but in "San Francisco, Calif." As stated on the ships dedication plaque. I personally take this to mean the San Francisco fleet yards which would include and orbital construction facility. And thus I disagree with the new movie.
The Enterprise D was built in Utopia Planetia.
Actually the Original Enterprise was but in "San Francisco, Calif." As stated on the ships dedication plaque. I personally take this to mean the San Francisco fleet yards which would include and orbital construction facility. And thus I disagree with the new movie.
The Enterprise D was built in Utopia Planetia.
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I think there's a good reason for changing it, but I'm not going to go looking for that info.
But the real reason I posted was I was just looking for an excuse to post this link:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/China-Southern-Airlines/Boeing-777-21B/1212249/L/
It reminded me a lot of the pic of the Enterprise under construction.
I think there's a good reason for changing it, but I'm not going to go looking for that info.
But the real reason I posted was I was just looking for an excuse to post this link:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/China-Southern-Airlines/Boeing-777-21B/1212249/L/
It reminded me a lot of the pic of the Enterprise under construction.
Re: Construction site of Enterprise, Star Trek XI
The producers have confirmed it.
The producers have confirmed it.
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I am confused then, why is that scene shot in Iceland? I'm not referring to the scene where he is driving past fields, but where he pulls up to the ship. There is no mistaking that surface and I know they shot scenes in Iceland in and around the sandur plains. If it is Iowa they are going for, its gone through one hell of a drought (noticing the lack of vegetation, dust, and volcanic black surface). Perhaps they were just trying for really dark, dry soil. Who knows.
I am confused then, why is that scene shot in Iceland? I'm not referring to the scene where he is driving past fields, but where he pulls up to the ship. There is no mistaking that surface and I know they shot scenes in Iceland in and around the sandur plains. If it is Iowa they are going for, its gone through one hell of a drought (noticing the lack of vegetation, dust, and volcanic black surface). Perhaps they were just trying for really dark, dry soil. Who knows.
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Re: Construction site of Enterprise, Star Trek XI
Maybe that scene wasn't really shot in Iceland and you're just mistaken.
Just putting that out there.
Maybe that scene wasn't really shot in Iceland and you're just mistaken.
Just putting that out there.
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The Iceland shooting was for the "Ice planet" scene much later in the film when Kirk is exiled from the ship and encounters both the creature from the trailer, Scotty and Spock from the future. The Enterprise scene is filmed in Iowa with the ship and its yard added digitally in post production, the field and surrounding environment are real.
The Iceland shooting was for the "Ice planet" scene much later in the film when Kirk is exiled from the ship and encounters both the creature from the trailer, Scotty and Spock from the future. The Enterprise scene is filmed in Iowa with the ship and its yard added digitally in post production, the field and surrounding environment are real.
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It is entirely possible that I am wrong, but since when does Iowa lack any vegetation for as far as the eye can see? In its natural state it is prairie land, in its current state its farmland and planted forest. What they may be going for is a place in Iowa where all the farmland, grass, prairie, and trees were cut down to construct Starships. That doesn't seem very environmentally friendly for the 23rd century.
It is also possible they are using a shot of somewhere else to represent Iowa. I know the glacier they used to film the ice scenes was very close to the wind-swept black plains of Iceland. Those plains drain the melt water from the glaciers. Well, no big deal, just thought it was interesting.
It is entirely possible that I am wrong, but since when does Iowa lack any vegetation for as far as the eye can see? In its natural state it is prairie land, in its current state its farmland and planted forest. What they may be going for is a place in Iowa where all the farmland, grass, prairie, and trees were cut down to construct Starships. That doesn't seem very environmentally friendly for the 23rd century.
It is also possible they are using a shot of somewhere else to represent Iowa. I know the glacier they used to film the ice scenes was very close to the wind-swept black plains of Iceland. Those plains drain the melt water from the glaciers. Well, no big deal, just thought it was interesting.
Re: Construction site of Enterprise, Star Trek XI
If one defines assumed as "stated repeatedly by the show's creator."
Not canon, maybe, but not assumed, either.
The plaque said "San Francisco," which GR explained as referring the orbittal shipyards in orbit above the city (where they are shown to be in TMP).
If one defines assumed as "stated repeatedly by the show's creator."
Not canon, maybe, but not assumed, either.
The plaque said "San Francisco," which GR explained as referring the orbittal shipyards in orbit above the city (where they are shown to be in TMP).
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Repeatedly?
Once, indirectly, in a book he "co-authored" with Stephen Whitfield. Presumably during his lifetime he had approval of later official reference works which made the claim, and we'll assume for the sake of argument that he read all such entries before they were published (despite the fact that he had at least one assistant whose job this was).
Where else?
In any event, there's never been an in-continuity establishing of how the Enterprise was constructed and where.
There will be in May.
Notably that (never referred to or legible on screen) plaque does not say a thing about the ship's construction; that it identifies the place of the ship's construction is an assumption. The RMS Titanic was constructed in Belfast and registered in Liverpool. Anyone know what it's dedication plaque read, if it had one?
Repeatedly?
Once, indirectly, in a book he "co-authored" with Stephen Whitfield. Presumably during his lifetime he had approval of later official reference works which made the claim, and we'll assume for the sake of argument that he read all such entries before they were published (despite the fact that he had at least one assistant whose job this was).
Where else?
In any event, there's never been an in-continuity establishing of how the Enterprise was constructed and where.
There will be in May.
Notably that (never referred to or legible on screen) plaque does not say a thing about the ship's construction; that it identifies the place of the ship's construction is an assumption. The RMS Titanic was constructed in Belfast and registered in Liverpool. Anyone know what it's dedication plaque read, if it had one?
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"Explains" it just fine. Belfast or Liverpool?
As far as we know right now, there's no "April" involved. Just a Pike.
"Explains" it just fine. Belfast or Liverpool?
As far as we know right now, there's no "April" involved. Just a Pike.
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It may still say "San Francisco."
As far as we know now, San Francisco is still the headquarters of the organization that the Enterprise belongs to, isn't it?
It may still say "San Francisco."
As far as we know now, San Francisco is still the headquarters of the organization that the Enterprise belongs to, isn't it?
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As long as it makes sense in the "world" of this movie, then nothing else matters.
As long as it makes sense in the "world" of this movie, then nothing else matters.
Re: Construction site of Enterprise, Star Trek XI
I thought that was part of the point of having the location on the plaque. The USS Defiant has "Tranquility Bay, Luna Base" on her plaque in Enterprise IaMD so it seems its meant to list the facility at which the ship was physically constructed. The same as the Ent-D having "Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars".
So "Iowa Construction Yards, USA" would be the likely sort of thing to see on it.
I thought that was part of the point of having the location on the plaque. The USS Defiant has "Tranquility Bay, Luna Base" on her plaque in Enterprise IaMD so it seems its meant to list the facility at which the ship was physically constructed. The same as the Ent-D having "Utopia Planitia Fleet Yards, Mars".
So "Iowa Construction Yards, USA" would be the likely sort of thing to see on it.
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