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[Timo]

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Yet the underside no doubt was textured for TOS-R use, and there are some shots of the craft banking hard, probably revealing whatever detail the CGI animators put in there. And I sort of think they wouldn't have settled for a featureless surface...

Say, HD zoom-ins of "Doomsday Machine" remastered might reveal something useful that at any rate doesn't contradict the original material. I don't recall whether "Journey to Babel" had some goods as well. The much less desirable fallback option is to use your imagination.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Timo]

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In one scene Boma is shown crawling out from under the Galileo, suggesting that there must be another access panel under there, which is possible since we've never seen the underside of the shuttlecraft onscreen at any time.

Hmm... Just thought of another possible explanation for this. In the previous scene, Scotty had discovered that the shuttle had suffered a fuel leak. Yet Spock had spotted no leaks during his previous scan of the exterior. It would make sense for Spock to order somebody to crawl under the craft now, to locate the leak and assess whether it posed a further danger, or could be repaired, or whatever.

So perhaps the underside is a smooth heatshield without any openings, but Boma went down in order to find if the Murasaki anomaly had torn the craft a new one.

Tumo Saloniemi

 

[Warped9]

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In one scene Boma is shown crawling out from under the Galileo, suggesting that there must be another access panel under there, which is possible since we've never seen the underside of the shuttlecraft onscreen at any time.

Hmm... Just thought of another possible explanation for this. In the previous scene, Scotty had discovered that the shuttle had suffered a fuel leak. Yet Spock had spotted no leaks during his previous scan of the exterior. It would make sense for Spock to order somebody to crawl under the craft now, to locate the leak and assess whether it posed a further danger, or could be repaired, or whatever.

So perhaps the underside is a smooth heatshield without any openings, but Boma went down in order to find if the Murasaki anomaly had torn the craft a new one.

Tumo Saloniemi

After I posted I was also thinking along the lines that Boma was just checking to see if there'd been any external damage due to the forced landing.

 

[Warped9]

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^^ Boma could also be checking for external hull damaged sustained from their forced landing.

 

[Timo]

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One wonders about the duration of the mission intended for the Galileo. Kirk authorized the study of Murasaki itself, not of the star systems within - but even this mission could have been expected to take the better part of a day (since they had two), so the crew would need food and beverages. That's exactly the sort of stuff Spock would allow to be thrown overboard... And exactly the sort one would store in a box like the cubical one.

Of course, the whole mission profile calls for a degree of imagination. Why are the Chief Engineer and Chief Medical Officer aboard? Why do the two expendables wear gold, if their mission is one of scientific study? One might think any of them could have brought some instrumentation of their own aboard - but Spock probably wouldn't be so skittish with dumping it at an early stage as he would be with dumping food and water.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Warped9]

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^^ If you study my cross-sections upthread you'll see I've already included a small food/beverage processing system on the port side.

 

[Timo]

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They are available at such a resolution that one can read the labels?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Warped9]

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They are available at such a resolution that one can read the labels?

Timo Saloniemi

Oops. Sorry about that. Good point. But it is there. It'll be more clear in the finalized deck plan.

Unfortunately due to circumstance it's next to the air tanks and near the waste management system. Of course, 23rd century denizens well accustomed to spaceflight likely don't give that much thought with it being rather common on shuttlecraft.

 

[Timo]

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Sounds workable to me... One can engage in guilty culinary pleasures out of sight of the rest of the crew now.

Are you going to tackle the alternate interior fit of "Immunity Syndrome"? Would it be something the techs could install in a modular manner in less than an hour, or an all-new layout of an all-new shuttle that was never intended to carry more than two people?

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Warped9]

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^^ My take on it is that the Class F and H interiors are flexibly and easily swapped out for mission specific equipment. That also saves me the work of actually drawing the different versions, and also because they are flexible there could be near endless variations I suppose.

The interior of the Class H will somewhat reflect what was suggested in "The Slaver weapon" with 3 seats, 2 fold down bunks, equipment and resources for three persons for an extended period. But it, too, could be refit as the standard 7 person or whatever else needed.

 

[Warped9]

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Just an update. I'm making progress in that I'm now drawing the top and bottom views of the life shell after which I'll start adding the assorted bits that are to be affixed to it. I should have something to look at Monday.

 

[ancient]

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Good work with this shuttle, I admire you obsession. The life-size TOS shuttle model was one of the most impressive bits of the show.

Does anyone know where the physical landing gear thing came from? It looks like a bit of machinery the prop/set people may have swiped from the scrap metal dump or something. It looks almost like an antique - kind of ornate.

 

[Warped9]

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Does anyone know where the physical landing gear thing came from? It looks like a bit of machinery the prop/set people may have swiped from the scrap metal dump or something. It looks almost like an antique - kind of ornate.

I read somewhere once that it was part of the front landing gear of a Cessna or some other.

Good work with this shuttle, I admire you obsession. The life-size TOS shuttle model was one of the most impressive bits of the show.

When I'm done I'll be going back to double check the shape and size of certain things like the air tanks in the aft cabin, the texture on the overhead lighting panels and some other things.

 

[Warped9]

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Inching forward....

You can see Scotty's access hatch as well as a larger one in the aft cabin on the underside view. Also visible are the port and starboard field equipment storage bins, such as the one that holds the hand phasers on the port side.

 

[ancient]

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Does anyone know where the physical landing gear thing came from? It looks like a bit of machinery the prop/set people may have swiped from the scrap metal dump or something. It looks almost like an antique - kind of ornate.

I read somewhere once that it was part of the front landing gear of a Cessna or some other.

I would've guessed that it was a stabilizer foot for a Backhoe.

Well, all you have to do is find one and you'll be one step closer to having a real shuttle!

 

[Warped9]

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^^ You know, by going through the trouble of drawing up the inner hull as well as the structural spaceframe it does give one some insight into how you could actually build a fullsize replica of the shuttlecraft as one integrated construct as opposed to two seperate interior and exterior mock-ups. Of course, a big difference is building it with contemporary materials as opposed to advanced 23rd century materials not yet invented.

But if I did build a fullsize replica then I'd be very interested in including interactive working lights and sound f/x initiated by the working controls. The
interior monitors could also be cued interactively with voice tracks to simulate warp flight, entering atmosphere and landing, lifting off a planet surface and finally returning to or leaving the E's hangar deck.

Oh, God, the geek streak runs deep.

 

[Warped9]

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I'm nearing the completion of the lifeshell inner hull. With luck and barring any interruptions I should have it done for tomorrow.

Then onto the structural spaceframe.

 

[BK613]

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I am curious to see how the lower door works: on the original shuttle, the warp pod provided a step up into the craft.

 

[Warped9]

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^^ On my design the inner doors are strictly two sliding panels because the if the lower half of it swung down it would have nowhere to go in a double hull structure. The outer access hatch works just as was seen onscreen.


To be clear the inner hull isn't completely finished as I have a few details I still want to add, but it's near enough to complete that you can see what it will look like. My initial intention had been to draw these up purely as reference for my cross sections, but I've put enough work into and it looks rather interesting that I may include them in the final set of plans as a supplement. Ditto with the spaceframe.

Note the two box like objects as well as the small rectangular object with the tapered top next to them at the aft end on the port side profile. In size and shape they're meant to resemble objects the Galileo crew was jettisoning overboard in TG7. I cannot specify exactly what they are or what they're supposed to do, but I'm speculating they are connected to my waste management system. And I am trying for some authenticity. I must also add that this was a bit of a clue to my speculated gross vehicle weight for the shuttlecraft. If after ripping out the aft bulkhead and tossing out assorted equipment they hadn't yet shed 500 lbs. then I figure the vehicle really must be made of futuristic lightweight materials.

 

[Praetor]

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I have nothing to say except:

Holy crap, that's awesome.