Yeah, that's true. God, I get sick of people who say 'Star Trek? Isn't that the one with Luke Skywalker'?
I should just walk up to a Law And Order fan and say 'Isn't that the one with Grissom'? You get the idea.
Titling Trek XI: Just call it "Star Trek"
- Thread starter Herbie J Pilato
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Yeah, that's true. God, I get sick of people who say 'Star Trek? Isn't that the one with Luke Skywalker'?
I should just walk up to a Law And Order fan and say 'Isn't that the one with Grissom'? You get the idea.
Dave Barry once pointed out how little things can make a difference in a successful book title and a failure. "Buckets Of Blood," he pointed out, is a weak title for a horror novel. Its marketability can be infinitely improved upon by a simple addition: "Buckets Of Blood - by Stephen King."
"Star Trek" = FLOP.
"Star Trek: See Uhura's Bra" = $$$
See, personally, I find calling it just "Star Trek" sort of disrespectful.
Subtitle it "Star Trek: The Movie" or something.
But "Star Trek" is the original series, and to a larger extent, the whole franchise.
To give this film that title... well it muddies the waters.
"So what did you think of Star Trek?"
"You mean the new movie?"
"No, Star Trek."
"Oh, the Old TV Show?"
"No! STAR TREK!"
"The Franchise as a Whole?"
It's just uncreative and stupid, IMHO.
Now, we all fans have developed our own work arounds. Trek is the franchise, TOS is the original series, and this movie is XI. Still... it's lame. Give it something unique to define itself as.
Subtitle it "Star Trek: The Movie" or something.
But "Star Trek" is the original series, and to a larger extent, the whole franchise.
To give this film that title... well it muddies the waters.
"So what did you think of Star Trek?"
"You mean the new movie?"
"No, Star Trek."
"Oh, the Old TV Show?"
"No! STAR TREK!"
"The Franchise as a Whole?"
It's just uncreative and stupid, IMHO.
Now, we all fans have developed our own work arounds. Trek is the franchise, TOS is the original series, and this movie is XI. Still... it's lame. Give it something unique to define itself as.
I'd have titled it STAR TREK: REBOOT just to see how many people suffered massive strokes.
I don't like just "Star Trek" because it will make it a real chore to find information on just the movie or excluding the movie without getting 123141244432 hits.
I'm going with "Virgin Star Trek: Be gentle".
0It is something unique. No movie has ever been called "Star Trek".
Honestly I think that calling it "Star Trek" sells the concept that this film is something particular, something unique, not just one more entry in an old franchise. Calling it "Star Trek XI" or "Star Trek: Triumph of the Evil-Looking Aliens" cheapens it, in my opinion. All these hyphenated titles make movies sound like cheap matinee serials.
For the sequel, they could go the "Dark Knight" route and call it "The Prime Directive" or "USS Enterprise" or something like that.
I agree that using "Star Trek" is somewhat unimaginative. It's like calling a Bond film "James Bond."
Leaving Star Trek out of it entirely would have been a gutsy move no studio exec would entertain for two seconds but it wouldn't have bothered me. Problem is the title I'd want to use is already associated with the worst of Trek films; "The Final Frontier."
Calling it "Enterprise" would have cool if it hadn't been for that cancelled TV show.
"To Boldy Go..." is more of a tagline and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" is a little long.
The only other Trek-related slogan I can think of that might apply to this movie is "Live Long and Prosper," which certainly conveys the intent of the producers for the franchise.
I guess "TEH WPMEN!!11!" is acceptable.
Leaving Star Trek out of it entirely would have been a gutsy move no studio exec would entertain for two seconds but it wouldn't have bothered me. Problem is the title I'd want to use is already associated with the worst of Trek films; "The Final Frontier."
Calling it "Enterprise" would have cool if it hadn't been for that cancelled TV show.
"To Boldy Go..." is more of a tagline and "Where No Man Has Gone Before" is a little long.
The only other Trek-related slogan I can think of that might apply to this movie is "Live Long and Prosper," which certainly conveys the intent of the producers for the franchise.
I guess "TEH WPMEN!!11!" is acceptable.
Again with the leading zero?
Just realized - it should obviously be called Star Trek 01!
The studio did allow Berman to leave out Star Trek in the title and all it did was distance everyone from it. Granted, that was supposed to be a direct prequel and not a reboot.
I think Star Trek is just fine, but I really rather wish it was the official "what we always refer to the old show by" name instead of TOS... But I digress.
You could type in "STAR TREK J.J. Abrams" or something similar to narrow the parameters down a lot.
And it should have been a reboot. They had the right title, the casting was in place, they just needed to change the names. Archer was a convincing Kirk and Blalock would have made a terrific Spock. Hoshi was Uhura 2.0 and Trip was a decent Scotty with a different accent. I even liked the idea of McCoy – the redneck human with almost no knowledge of alien species - being an alien.
Talk about a BSG-style reboot...
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0It was an homage.
And it should have been a reboot. They had the right title, the casting was in place, they just needed to change the names. Archer was a convincing Kirk and Blalock would have made a terrific Spock. Hoshi was Uhura 2.0 and Trip was a decent Scotty with a different accent. I even liked the idea of McCoy – the redneck human with almost no knowledge of alien species - being an alien.
Talk about a BSG-style reboot...
Well, I wouldn't care for Phlox as a McCoy surrogate, but other than that I agree.
They should simply have done more TOS-style melodrama.
I think calling it "STAR TREK" is fine to bring in the new folks. (Because we all know just saying Star Trek and having no other information will just suck people in.)
Anyway, since "Star Trek" is already used to refer to the whole franchise and is used to refer to the original series, "Star Trek" - the movie - will never be called such by the fans. It'll always be "STXI", or "ST09", or "JJTrek", or possibly "That fucking damn thing" depending on who's talking.
Anyway, since "Star Trek" is already used to refer to the whole franchise and is used to refer to the original series, "Star Trek" - the movie - will never be called such by the fans. It'll always be "STXI", or "ST09", or "JJTrek", or possibly "That fucking damn thing" depending on who's talking.
