Exactly. News flash: If you come at me with a knife, I'm going to shoot until you stop coming at me with a knife.
my friend rushed police with knife & got killed!!!
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I was kind of thinking the same thing. With comments like "why would someone do this?" and "he was off his medication he wouldn't act like this!"
Like the cop who had a screaming, knife-weilding, madman running at him who just crashed his car into police cruisers is supposed to say "Maybe he's a nice guy and just off his meds. Guess I'll let him attack me with that knife."
With all respect to the deceased and the OP who lost a friend, it was an unfortuante set of circumstances but the guy "had it coming." The cop had no other choice.
Sorry for your loss, though, OP.
Would you at least yell "STOP" first?
lets just say that If "I" were to go off my meds (not that something like that I would even think of doing at this point in my life.., But If i were to ..,) I would not need A knife I to kill the police as well as the next ten people that come at me because they would be dead before they knew what happened ., in fact the last time I was off my meds due to unforeseeable problems back in 1989 I incited rioting and was locked up and maced over and over again.
*humbly* I take my meds and do what I am told these days to everyones dismay and seem some how like a dog that has been medicated too much at times but I do not question that.,,
my power is my pen/word/sound/artistry and I have put down my martial arts training for peaceful endevures .,
My friend at this juncture in his life could of used more guidance as we all sit around saying if only or what if.,
nay we say what we will to be the morals and virtues of mad men., the way they are and that they become and beget the new freedoms that are found in the hands of ours and others to transend the moment and the momentum is lost in the rhyme of poetry existing in timelessness.
*humbly* I take my meds and do what I am told these days to everyones dismay and seem some how like a dog that has been medicated too much at times but I do not question that.,,
my power is my pen/word/sound/artistry and I have put down my martial arts training for peaceful endevures .,
My friend at this juncture in his life could of used more guidance as we all sit around saying if only or what if.,
nay we say what we will to be the morals and virtues of mad men., the way they are and that they become and beget the new freedoms that are found in the hands of ours and others to transend the moment and the momentum is lost in the rhyme of poetry existing in timelessness.
Why? You'd think a police siren would have been enough to tell him to stop.
think--I get the feeling some of that most recent commentary was directed at me. I hope you understand I was not taking a swipe at people with mental illnesses or anything like that. But I do think that the fact that it IS so easy to put oneself in harm's way by not following one's treatment regimen is a very important lesson to take out of this. Even in the incident of your own you describe, it sounds like it could have been very easy for that to turn the other way on you had you had anything that could've been a weapon.
No, I mean would Apostle yell stop if someone came at him.
Yea...ok.
Sorry for your loss man.
However, that article doesn't present a "sweet and gentle soul" to me.
He was in a 12 step program at one point.
He was speeding for starts, then lead the cops on a chase and charges them with a knife.
It doesn't say but I suspect he was high, just as another reporter asked.
He may indeed have not been a career criminal but I can't say I feel as if the cops were out of line.
However, that article doesn't present a "sweet and gentle soul" to me.
He was in a 12 step program at one point.
He was speeding for starts, then lead the cops on a chase and charges them with a knife.
It doesn't say but I suspect he was high, just as another reporter asked.
He may indeed have not been a career criminal but I can't say I feel as if the cops were out of line.
Seriously. What the OP doesn't seem to understand is that his friend was a career criminal with a major drug problem.
Did the cops know this guy? Had they had previous episodes with him?
That's pretty rough, my condolences.
I'm sure the cop himself isn't pleased with how the situation turned out either, but I can't say I blame him.
I'm sure the cop himself isn't pleased with how the situation turned out either, but I can't say I blame him.
Exactly.
sorry bout that - I feeling better now; Just needed to get to explain that at one point I was in my friends shoes at his age ., and should of died but somehow did not .., at that age I would lashed out at anyone there was; nothing was safe not even the scum in the pond that was just as fair game as anything else.
Bull shit , they could have shot him in the leg to bring him down, them disarmed him. He'd be in a heap of shit but still be alive.
Sorry for the loss of you freind.
You watch too many movies.
You shoot for center mass, it's gaurnteed to take down the suspect and its easier to hit as opposed to the -comparatively thin and MOVING- legs.
A trained sniper with enough time to tune in his shot might be able to shoot at the legs in the BEST of situations but a beat cop with a madman running at him? You shoot for the best target -center mass.
And even if you DO shoot him in the leg that doesn't completely remove the guy as a threat. For all they know he's hopped up on drugs that've numbed the feeling and pain in his body so you shoot someone like that in the leg they're STILL a threat, hell a person NOT hopped up on drugs shot in the leg still will be a viable threat.
Centermass = no threat.
I'm overwhelmed by the sensitivity exhibited here to the death of this Poster's friend.
I agree with the general sentiment of the article that the police could have done any number of other things. They acted out of self-serving fear, which should have no place in the mind of a law enforcement officer. Their lives are expendable - and hardly even at risk in this scenario. One man with a knife isn't much of a threat to two men armed with batons, pepper spray, tasers, and fuck knows what else. The "shoot first" mentality among apparently so many cops is revolting.
Sorry for the loss of your friend, dude. If you're considering vengeance I'd advise you not to go ill-equipped - cops don't fight fair. They fight like cowards and pansies. Always have, always will. The only people the average cop is interested in protecting and serving is himself and his fellow cops. There are exceptions, but the more I see the more I believe that those exceptions are few and far between.
Sorry for the loss of your friend, dude. If you're considering vengeance I'd advise you not to go ill-equipped - cops don't fight fair. They fight like cowards and pansies. Always have, always will. The only people the average cop is interested in protecting and serving is himself and his fellow cops. There are exceptions, but the more I see the more I believe that those exceptions are few and far between.