CaptainHawk1
Commodore
And this shows how incredibly simple and ignorant you are.
The Patriot Act did not remove any freedoms at all. As I pointed out in another thread, because I actually know what the fuck I'm talking about because I do this for a living, all the Patriot Act did was close loopholes that existed and put into statute law that was already on the books by court ruling.
This may be hard for you to understand because you're a Kool Aid drinker, but laws in this country are determined both by court ruling and by legislation (there are other methods too, but let's stick with the big ones) . When they are codified by legislation as they were in the Patriot Act, they have more teeth and less ambuguity for courts to deal with.
Uneducated people like you who are so obsessed with hating Bush spout off about the Patriot Act all the time and you don't even know what's in it. You just think it's bad because the people who think for you at Daily Kos, Move On and the ACLU tell you it's bad.
There was no fluke about 9/11 and if you think that there was you're naive as well as ignorant. As much I've come to appreciate Clinton, his Administration is what caused the failures that you refer to as being responsible (but since you are a Kool Aid drinker, you probably think that it was an inside job by the Bush Administration to begin so why should truth and reason affect your opinion) as it chose to treat terrorism as a law enforcement issue and not an issue of National Security which is why the AG's Office put up the wall preventing the CIA and the FBI from communicating with each other and sharing information. But that's probably a conspiracy by the Bush Administration too, right?
The Radical Islamic is nothing new and we did nothing to bring it upon ourselves and their stated goals is the destruction of the Westen World in favor of ther own warped version of Islam. You and your freedoms are the target. I challenge you to read the many works of Bernard Lewis for an accurate history of these savages and the movement.
As for success since 9/11, again you're a Kool Aid drinker so you're obviously ignorant of the 19 terrorist plots have been thwarted specifically because of the US policies.
http://www.heritage.org/research/HomelandDefense/bg2085.cfm
Now, since you're a flaming leftist, you'll probably choose to dismiss the article because of the source, the Heritage Foundation. Fine, look up the cases listed in the article on your own. It's all public information and it's not hard to find, but your logic and rhetoric tend to be lazy, so I'm not really expecting a lot.
As an aside, I normally use politically neutral sources when I cite, but this is the only article I could find that listed all of the thwarted terrorist attacks that were on the record. The only one that I wouldn't have included was the thwarted attack by Richard Reid because US policy had nothing to do with it, it was the result of alert passengers and crew on the airplane.
As for why Clinton doesn't get credit for any other attacks prevented post the 1993 WTC bombing, that's simple: because he didn't. In fact throughout the next 8 years his policies fostered the free movement of terrorists in this country to plan and carry out attacks against the US (see: 9/11 and OKC). I'm not going to blame the Clinton Administration exclusively for 9/11 as there is a lot of blame to go around and ultimately the terroirsts are the ones who are responsible for it but you just want to close your eyes to the historical truth because you hate Bush so much.
The reason I've let this thread continue without any input on my part is not because I can't defnd my position, it's because I don't need to and it doesn't matter anyway what I say to you Kool Aid drinkers suffering from Bush Derangement Syndrome. All you can see is your own hatred.
I say, "why bother?" At the end of the day, chances are that I make a lot more money than you, have a bigger house and am actually happy with myself and my family despite a crappy economy and the fact that the President-elect isn't a guy I wouldn't have picked.
You're miserable and it shows everytime you post.
I'm not and I don't need to spend four days proving to a bunch of left-wing fringe dopes I don't even know how right I am.
Good luck with you and your hatred. I hope it works out for you and I can't wait to see your posts in four years when you're still complaining about Bush.
-Shawn
) They're still part of the Empire, a part directly ruled by Britain, in fact. And, they are fairly considered British entertainment quite aside from that, since very few in the rest of the world would have heard of them if not for the Beeb.
And I believe I mentioned a bit more than just frivolities.
