Bush just said goodbye!

[trekkerguy]

And good riddence!


I think he meant the speech to leave a good feeling about him and his
Presidency. Didn't happen. I hope his life goes well as long and he stays
far from politics from here on out.

God, I keep forgetting how terrible he is at these addresses. How his speaking sounds so rehearsed yet at the same time so not rehearsed how you can almost hear the delay in the scrolling of the teleprompter and how utterly FULL of himself he is.

All of this stuff, "reminding" us of 9/11, deaths and, oh, insisiting it's our "duty" to free other people in other nations. Forgetting the other ruin and shambles THIS country is in.

GOD.

Jan 20 can't get here soon enough. I never have to hear another speech, address, or other blathering nonsense out of this man again.

GOODBYE, Bush.

Precisely.

 

[TedShatner10]

While Saddam and vile regime got what was coming to them, Iraq was safely contained and posed no real strategic threat what-so-ever, and the connection to Osama was greatly over exaggerated. If the thinly veiled imperialism wasn't bad enough, the many tactical, strategic, and administrative blunders in Iraq itself were so numerous and awful it was hypnotic.

And while Clinton did not do a great deal about Bin Laden, at least he committed a token effort to cripple Bin Laden's organization in Afghanistan while Bush left Bin Laden by the way side in the few months leading up to 9/11 (which included scalling back on the spying of Al-Quada encampments!).

And the US economy was always a basket case under Bush the Dumber with the Enron scandal occuring and the Dot.com bubble bursting earlier on in his tenure. Not including overseeing the senseless feeding of the property market bubble and keeping big business addicted to dirt cheap labour (which increased outsourcing).

Sorry, but this chimp in a suit was awful before he was voted in and proved himself to be as awful as many people predicted he was going to be eight years ago.

 

[Squiggy]

We'll see how the frogs like their king.

What does that even mean?

 

[Alpha_Geek]

It means "Prepare for dissapointment".

 

[Squiggy]

Thats where you guys are going waaaaay off course. We're not thinking Obama is going to change everything and make the world full of rainbows and sugarplums. Thats what you guys are saying we're thinking in an attempt to paint everyone who voted for Obama as a naive, mindless drone.

We're just asking for better than what we've had the past few years. There is no evidence so far that it won't be.

You guys lost. Handily.

 

[Maestro]

I don't think he did the best job as President. 9/11 wasn't his fault, but we didn't get attacked again after. Are thwarted attempts by Al-Qaida to attack us classified? I hope not. 10, 25, 50 years from now, I don't want to discover that they were banging on the door throughout the Bush Administration and that said Administration protected us. And I only say that because I live in a world where they didn't attack again.

As for Iraq. He was caught in a Catch-22. Bush thought Iraq had WMDs. Hussein had blustered the world into thinking he might. Bush does nothing, Hussein has WMDs, and suddenly, Paris is a nuclear wasteland. What are the French going to do? Call for Bush's head because he didn't act.

Well, Bush acted, and what did the Frenchies do? Called for Bush's head because he acted.

Did Bush prop up that intelligence? Yep. Did Bush tried to sell the invasion? Yep. But again, I give you, what if Hussein had the weapons and intead nuked Paris?

 

[trekkerguy]

But again, I give you, what if Hussein had the weapons and intead nuked Paris?

The fact is he didn't, "what if"s are irrelevant except for in the creation
of parallel Universes.

So he didn't, Bush screwed up, Bush covered his ass. That's all there is to it.

 

[Maestro]

Well, that's what makes it a Catch-22. I'm not saying that Bush made the right call either. I'm just saying that to me, it looked like his choices were invade or risk Hussein having WMDs. Bush chose to invade. Right call? Dunno. Wrong call? It's looking that way.

 

[TedShatner10]

Well, that's what makes it a Catch-22. I'm not saying that Bush made the right call either. I'm just saying that to me, it looked like his choices were invade or risk Hussein having WMDs. Bush chose to invade. Right call? Dunno. Wrong call? It's looking that way.

The supposed WMDs was a bucket of steaming horse balls from the get go, Saddam stopped being a relevant strategic threat after 1991 with the economic sanctions and the US Navy/Air Force blockade, his significant chemical and nuclear production centres were wrecked in 1998's Desert Fox campaign. Saddam Hussein's boasting was not Catch-22 but delusional bullshit and bluster, and it is obvious the Bush Administration was similarily divorced from reality as well!

 

[Mr Awe]

And then you get B.O. who by all indications is going to continue most of Bush's policies.

You may want to study up a bit!

Mr Awe

 

[Maestro]

So, he really did make the wrong call. OK. I can't really live with that, but I can live with that info.

 

[Alpha_Geek]

Thats where you guys are going waaaaay off course. We're not thinking Obama is going to change everything and make the world full of rainbows and sugarplums. Thats what you guys are saying we're thinking in an attempt to paint everyone who voted for Obama as a naive, mindless drone.

We're just asking for better than what we've had the past few years. There is no evidence so far that it won't be.

You guys lost. Handily.

I never said any of that, I just said "Prepare for dissapointment". Some of it is already happening as Obama is backing away from campaign promises.

At any rate, placing the blame for all evils on the president is silly. Most of the current problems in government have their root in legislative branch with those career cronies that get to vote raises for themselves with all this fun stuff going on around them.

Term limits. Accountability. Maybe a clean sweep. The US government needs an enema.

 

[John Picard]

Exit Bush, Shoes Flying

By: Charles Krauthammer

Except for Richard Nixon, no president since Harry Truman has left office more unloved than George W. Bush. Truman's rehabilitation took decades. Bush's will come sooner. Indeed, it has already begun. The chief revisionist? Barack Obama.

Vindication is being expressed not in words but in deeds -- the tacit endorsement conveyed by the Obama continuity-we-can-believe-in transition. It's not just the retention of such key figures as Defense Secretary Bob Gates or Treasury Secretary nominee Timothy Geithner, who, as president of the New York Fed, has been instrumental in guiding the Bush financial rescue over the past year. It's the continuity of policy.​

It is the repeated pledge to conduct a withdrawal from Iraq that does not destabilize its new democracy and that, as Vice President-elect Joe Biden said just this week in Baghdad, adheres to the Bush-negotiated status-of-forces agreement that envisions a U.S. withdrawal over three years, not the 16-month timetable on which Obama campaigned.​

It is the great care Obama is taking in not preemptively abandoning the anti-terror infrastructure that the Bush administration leaves behind. While still a candidate, Obama voted for the expanded presidential wiretapping (FISA) powers that Bush had fervently pursued. And while Obama opposes waterboarding (already banned, by the way, by Bush's CIA in 2006), he declined George Stephanopoulos's invitation (on ABC's "This Week") to outlaw all interrogation not permitted by the Army Field Manual. Explained Obama: "Dick Cheney's advice was good, which is let's make sure we know everything that's being done," i.e., before throwing out methods simply because Obama campaigned against them.​

Obama still disagrees with Cheney's view of the acceptability of some of these techniques. But citing as sage the advice offered by "the most dangerous vice president we've had probably in American history" (according to Joe Biden) -- advice paraphrased by Obama as "we shouldn't be making judgments on the basis of incomplete information or campaign rhetoric" -- is a startlingly early sign of a newly respectful consideration of the Bush-Cheney legacy.​

The rest of the article will irk a lot of people who are under the impression that Mr Obama is going to yank the US and its policies in a completely different direction.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

I find myself at a loss to express how I truly feel about President Bush's departure, except through song...

Nobody does it betterer
Makes us feel like we've been cursed
Nobody screws up the country half as good as you
Shrubby, you're the worst

You lost the vote, but still won the election
Something about that just didn't seem right
And like a nucular weapon
You gave Neocons an erection
So they faked some evidence to start a fight

And nobody does it betterer
Your policies were flimsy as a house of cards
Nobody flubs lines quite the way you do
Why'd you have to suck so hard?

The way that you hold guys
In Guantanamo without trial
There's some kind of evil inside you
That keeps 'em waterboarding
And Fox News poorly reporting
How'd you learn to live with the things you do?

Oh, and nobody does it betterer
Makes me feel sad for the Earth
Oh, buddy you choked like you were eating a pretzel too
Shrubby, Shrubby, Dubya, you're the worst

Shrubby you're the worst
Dubya, left Obama a giant turd
Shrubby you're the worst

 

[LeadHead]

Wow George way to not take responsibility for anything.

Taking an economy ith a surplus and turnig into extreme defecit, the consequeces of which will effect kids who haven't been born yet.

For not reading a report entitled "Bin Laden Determined to attack US"

For lying to everyone in the country and getting thousands of our troops killed in a war that did not need to be involved in.

For sitting back and doing nothing when you were informed that Katrina was going to hit a heavily populated area.

For allowing our real enemy to be able to regain partial control of Afghanistan because of the Iraq war.

For not having the presence of mind to realize that in a consumer based economy you have to protect the consumers and invest in them rather than your rich pals.

For turning a blind eye to the oil industry's insufferable greed and let them drain the pocketbooks dry of milions of Americans, partially leading to the economic collapse.

For destroying the civil liberties of Americans, something that actual patriots went to war and died for.


On behalf of America, I say this:

GET OUT!!!!!!

 

[John Picard]

Wow George way to not take responsibility for anything.

Taking an economy ith a surplus and turnig into extreme defecit, the consequeces of which will effect kids who haven't been born yet.

Congress controls the budget, not the President.

For not reading a report entitled "Bin Laden Determined to attack US"

Mmmm, bin Laden was ignored by Bill Clinton.

For lying to everyone in the country and getting thousands of our troops killed in a war that did not need to be involved in.

And yet the Congress supported him by almost 95%

For sitting back and doing nothing when you were informed that Katrina was going to hit a heavily populated area.

The blame for that sits squarely on the "leadership" of the City of New Orleans

For allowing our real enemy to be able to regain partial control of Afghanistan because of the Iraq war.

And who is this "real enemy"? What do they control?

For not having the presence of mind to realize that in a consumer based economy you have to protect the consumers and invest in them rather than your rich pals.

Really? Who are his "rich pals" he helped? Why did people like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Maxine Walters allow the fiasco of Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae to happen?

For turning a blind eye to the oil industry's insufferable greed and let them drain the pocketbooks dry of milions of Americans, partially leading to the economic collapse.

Ummm, supply and demand? Ever heard of it? Oil is now below $40/barrel. Gee, that conspiracy theory is rock solid

For destroying the civil liberties of Americans, something that actual patriots went to war and died for.

What Civil Liberties did he destroy?

On behalf of America, I say this:

GET OUT!!!!!!

You should get your facts straight and stop parroting the same, tired BS of conspiracy minded whackos.

 

[LeadHead]

Congress controls the budget, not the President.

The President took the country to war, blowing billions every day on Iraq. Also, the President has influence over economic policy. He didn't use it, whoops!

Mmmm, bin Laden was ignored by Bill Clinton.

Just because Clinton didn't do anything about Bin Laden during his terms, doesn't obsolve Bush of responsibility during his. That's like saying "I forgot to pay the electric bill because you forgot to last month."

The blame for that sits squarely on the "leadership" of the City of New Orleans

He had briefings, we've seen them. If he's the "decider" he has to back up that motto by deciding to do something. He decided to do NOTHING. The State and local authorities were at fault too. But if he's going to be the safety and national security President. He has to actually DO THINGS about Safety and National Security.

And who is this "real enemy"? What do they control?

Al-Queda, The Taliban, remember them? Because of our military forces being so heavily diverted to Iraq it has left plenty of room for them to get back in there and get their operations going again.

Really? Who are his "rich pals" he helped? Why did people like Barney Frank, Chris Dodd, and Maxine Walters allow the fiasco of Freddie Mac and Sallie Mae to happen?

The Bush Tax cuts. The Oil company tax cuts. The humongous Haliburton contracts.

Ummm, supply and demand? Ever heard of it? Oil is now below $40/barrel. Gee, that conspiracy theory is rock solid

Ummmm... he could have tried to get the oil industry tax cuts closed and given that money to the consumers who were being bled dry. To help things. He did nothing. Wow, deciding to do nothing sems to be his mantra.

What Civil Liberties did he destroy?

Hmmm.... lets see, Privacy, Warrantless wiretapping, TORTURE!

You should get your facts straight and stop parroting the same, tired BS of conspiracy minded whackos.

Ummmm... sorry not a wacko, just been paying attetion while this guy has taken my country and done terrible things to it. You don't like facts and truths tat's fine, but don't call me a wacko if you're not gonna say much more than Clinton didn't handle things much better.

 

[Dayton3]

There is not a single civil liberty I have in the United States today that I did not have before 9-11-01.

And regarding Halliburton.

People forget that Halliburton was ALREADY being award no bid contracts.

By the CLINTON Administration.

 

[Augustus]

This is one battle that I know there is no way to win. Some people just have it in their mind that they are going to hate and bash Bush for all eternity. He is the most disgusting person in history to many and could do no right.

It is almost like an addiction or an obsessive habit. Even in little things. I remember reading an article about his second inauguration and how it cost $40-70 million dollars and people were throwing a fit. Obama's will cost more than $120 and no one says a word.

To me it displays immaturity. Like the Dr. Suess character who would not indulge in a little green eggs and ham anywhere, there is no way for many of these Bush haters to like Bush in anyway.

Is it because he is from Texas? isn't good at public speaking? isn't a liberal? I don't know, but it must be some thing beyond what he has actually done or not done, because the hate is obsessive.

 

[John Picard]

This is one battle that I know there is no way to win. Some people just have it in their mind that they are going to hate and bash Bush for all eternity. He is the most disgusting person in history to many and could do no right.

It is almost like an addiction or an obsessive habit. Even in little things. I remember reading an article about his second inauguration and how it cost $40-70 million dollars and people were throwing a fit. Obama's will cost more than $120 and no one says a word.

To me it displays immaturity. Like the Dr. Suess character who would not indulge in a little green eggs and ham anywhere, there is no way for many of these Bush haters to like Bush in anyway.

Is it because he is from Texas? isn't good at public speaking? isn't a liberal? I don't know, but it must be some thing beyond what he has actually done or not done, because the hate is obsessive.

Well said, but you forgot to add that the Bush haters talk about how he's "stupid", yet gloss over the fact that he's fluent in Spanish