Why was their no resolution to the Garibaldi/Bester story?
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In the early draft of "The Path of Sorrows" in which the captured telepath helped by Matheson was Lyta,
there was scene as Matheson was escaping where we'd see Lyta and Lennier fighting just before the explosion. The implication is that they were both killed at that time.
Dunno if I should spoiler protect something that didn't happen but just in case...
Jan
Yeah, I thought leaving his character in that state felt totally unsatisfying.
It's my understanding that sometime between the last two episodes of season five, somewhere in that several year time span that Lennier met his end. I am not sure if JMS ever states specifically what happened to Lennier and if he ever saw Delenn again. That's really the only character arc that I felt never had any real sort of resolution.
^ Lennier was supposed to have died in the Telepath War, wasn't he? As was Lyta.
They had the secret carriers that never left hyperspace, at the least.
The Psi Corps were trying to take over Earth's government. The war was between them, and a coalition of mundanes and rogue teeps.
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I think it's stated pretty clearly that it would be a War of information as much as a war of arms. As soon as a teep takes off the badge and gloves, who can tell them from a mundane? Other telepaths of course, which is why psi-corp lost; they didn't count on the blips getting organised behind a martyr figurehead or getting the secret backing of one of the mega-corps.
Ironically, both of those things can be blamed on Bester.
Ironically, both of those things can be blamed on Bester.
I think it befits the character of Garibaldi.
Well, Lennier almost kills Sheridan in Objects at Rest -- so he runs away to go do some good deed to redeem himself in Delenn's eyes -- and then in Sleeping in Light Delenn toasts him as an "absent friend" -- so, it is apparent that he died, and Delenn must think highly of him to remember him at the dinner. So this thread was resolved, just maybe not in the way we wanted.
(In the Crusade bible it's stated that he died in the Telepath War, and as Jan pointed out, there's something specific in the original script for Path of Sorrows which is in spoiler tags in that post)
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The part I always wondered about was whether he did ever see Delenn again. I like to think that he did.
Jan
Would be very much like the Communist witch hunts these blips were going to have Carte Blanche over who they out.
Also how would such a small population take over the government and why? What's the point of ruling earth when there are much more powerful species out there.
Hadn't they already controlled a large portion of the government? That's why Edgars was so big on wanting to wipe out all the telepaths, because he said they were the danger and Clark didn't matter.
I can't figure out what you mean here. Because a powerful force exists somewhere else there's no point in ruling Earth? That's like -- why would someone want to be President of Angola when China exists...one doesn't really have anything to do with the other.
In a word: fear.
The Telepaths are afraid of eventually being turned into a slave race or worse, wiped out entierly, so some of them decide it's a matter of survival to take power while they still can. The mundanes are afraid of exactly that happening and so you get people like Edgers trying to get there first.
That's the why. As for the how; when you have a large organised group of people that can read thoughts, implant suggestions, alter, create or wipe out memories and are undetectable from the general population, you really don't need much imagination as to how they'd pull off a coup d'etat. Holding on to that power again comes down to imposing fear. Again, Edgars laid this all out:-
"Once they take off those badges, can you tell a telepath from a normal?
They don't have to be everywhere to make people believe. They might be next door.
You want your secrets exposed...your most private thoughts
broadcast for the world to hear?"
"How many people actually belonged to the Nazi party? The Communist party? The Jihad party? A very small number.
But there were plenty of other people who were happy to do the work for them...and others afraid enough to let it happen."
Answer to the first question: as with everything else in life, that is subjective, but the few I have read (I no longer remember which) were good.
And the answer to the second question: If you like B5 and are a completeist, then yes, they are worth checking out.
Is it just me, or are some of these available as ebooks?
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