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Scifi Channel's Spring schedule

I really wish someone would bring back Babylon 5. Can't afford the DVDs but would love to see the series. :(
If you have broadband, Hulu.com offers B5, as does theWB.com. Though some hate watching anything longer than 10 mins on the pc screen, it's an option. :shifty:
 
I really wish someone would bring back Babylon 5. Can't afford the DVDs but would love to see the series. :(
If you have broadband, Hulu.com offers B5, as does theWB.com. Though some hate watching anything longer than 10 mins on the pc screen, it's an option. :shifty:

Isn't it only the first two seasons though? Would love it if they updated to included the other 3.
 
What's weird is that SciFi actually shows some genuine scifi movies on the weekends every so often; I recall sometime in November/December they actually aired Blade Runner, which was a very pleasant surprise. If they could air more of the good movies in their catalog on Saturdays and save the crappy stuff for Sunday, expand the Ani-Monday block by airing some older imported anime (Blue Submarine No. 6 for example) and showing it uncensored, play more of the old NBC Universal scifi shows they have access to, and air their new shows a bit earlier, the channel might have a chance of surviving and improving its image with viewers.
 
I really wish someone would bring back Babylon 5. Can't afford the DVDs but would love to see the series. :(
If you have broadband, Hulu.com offers B5, as does theWB.com. Though some hate watching anything longer than 10 mins on the pc screen, it's an option. :shifty:

Isn't it only the first two seasons though? Would love it if they updated to included the other 3.
Yeah, Hulu has s1-2, while theWB.com has only s5 at the moment. The word 'new' appears next to all the s5 eps, implying that the others had been available, and were rotated out.
 
What's Gundam 00's timeslot?

Gundam 00 probably isn't the best anime to start with, but it's on "Ani-Monday" at 11 PM

have you ever seen any anime? what are your thoughts on it?

the best "starter for other non-anime scifi fans" is of course, Cowboy Bebop, because its essentially "Firefly: the Animated Series" (more or less)...I know Whedon is a big anime fan (the opening shot of River Tam curled up in a box is a shot-for-shot recreation of a scene from the series "Outlaw Star"

Long story short: rather than endlessly extend series with sequel series that drain the concept (like Voyager and Enterprise) what the really-long-running anime series like to do is make lots of "remakes" and re-imaginings (like BSG)

the original "Gundam" series ran in the late 1970's, and it did have a sequel series and ended with the movie "Char's Counterattack", but it told the beginning and end of one war; they call this the "Universal Century" continuity.

Long story short: Earth Federation establishes many space colonies...not on other planets yet, but at Earth's Lagrangian points. One of the colonies, Zeon, at the Lagrantian Point on the far side of the Moon, basically become Space Nazis and declare their independence as the Principality of Zeon. War is now fought by versatile humanoid battlemechs (for once, used as actual military hardware and not Super Robots)...

other Gundam series were variations on this theme, such as "Gundam SEED" and "Gundam Wing" which aired on Cartoon Network but didn't have a political edge.

I just read a really good review of Gundam 00, which said that it's amazingly political and actually about *US* in the present. That is, the enemies from "Zeon" used to be just "Space Nazis". You know who the bad guys were (even though they made Zeon characters fullly rounded)

Gundam 00 basically just says this: it's 300 years from now in AD 2307, and fossil fuels are running out. Unlike past series, there are no space colonies at lagrangian points. What did happen was there are 3 superpowers that have carved up the world, and rely on solar power from massive orbital elevators lined with solar panels, which extend all the way into orbit until they reach "Star City" like space stations in geosynchronous orbit.

The 3 factions, while a little different, are easily recognizable as outgrown versions of the United States, Europe, and China. The "Union" (USA) controls both Americas, Australasia, and Japan. The "Advanced European Union" control continental Europe including Russia west of the Urals, and Greenland. The Chinese ("Human Reform League") control Korea, Indo-China, Indonesia, Siberian Russia, and India (not Pakistan). The remaining third world countries of Africa and the Middle East (extending to Afghanistan and Pakistan) are basically just left to rot now that their fossil fuels have run out.

There was an indesicive non-nuclear world war a few decades ago, and each major superpower has learned that it would be difficult to fight the others, so they spend their time fighting proxy wars in the third world over dwindling resources.

The politics are obviously meant to mirror our own and be more complex than "Space Nazis": the USA (known as the "Union") is essentially the "good guys"....so long as the right thing happens to be the same as maintaining their power (think Haliburton: outright genocide in the third world would be bad for business, so they try to intervene and stop that kind of thing, but they're not particularly altruistic, except compared to the other two). The Chi-Coms are a new Socialist/Maoist state and have an alien valueset to the other two, being fairly ruthless. The Europeans are constantly upset about how they have lost the prestige and power they used to have, and are scrambling to play catch-up with the other two major powers, and are willing to screw over any third world country in the process to bring themselves back to prominence.

The main characters are actually a paramilitary "warriors for peace" kind of new terrorist organization, called "Celestial Being" who basically say that all 3 major powers are wrong for fighting major wars betwen themselves and for using the third world as pawns, and their mission statement is to end all wars (in one episode, a South American nation that is effectively Kosovo or South Ossetia declares its independence and they forcibly repulse Union troops who are sent in to restore control to the national government). The main pilot character is from former Kurdistan and as a boy was forced to become a child soldier and shoot his parents. This isn't the happy "Power Rangers"-esque Gundam-series of past incarnations.

Further, mention of "strife in the Thrid World and proxy wars" isn't just something they mention on the sidelines; a major viewpoint character is actually from there and the show doesn't really take the "side" of any of the three superpowers (not even the Union) ; a viewpoint character is "Marina Ismail" who is the first elected sovereign of the "Kingdom of Azadistan"...which is actually future Persia (Iran), though they have conquered Kurdistan. They're one of the few comparatively stable Third World countries left (all of Africa and the Middle East are effectively like Burma is today). The idea is that when the fossil fuels ran out and everyone switched to solar power, Iran was screwed. Now "Azadistan", without oil, was subjected to a trade embargo by the 3 superpowers that has crippled it. They're basically begging either the AEU or Union to let them develop their own solar power but basically the superpowers just went to strip-mine the Third World of whatever's left.

So for once, a political Gundam series set relatively near-Earth (there are space battles but they're all in low-orbit now)
 
I really wish someone would bring back Babylon 5. Can't afford the DVDs but would love to see the series. :(
If you have broadband, Hulu.com offers B5, as does theWB.com. Though some hate watching anything longer than 10 mins on the pc screen, it's an option. :shifty:


I was going to say that! :)

And the other seasons will be added, you don't normally add all the episodes at once, you spread them out. Season 3 should be updated sometime this year, they seem to have been adding a new season every 6+ months.
 
Wow that was a long post, V. I agree anyone who likes scifi/fantasy should try out anime. The Japanese have the best ideas these days. Their manga (comics) and anime culture is so alive that it really supports creativity. And it's easier and lower budget to draw and animate good ideas than to make a live action show. The studios also don't interfere with the mangakas' ideas because it usually goes like this: comics get drawn --> big fanbase --> animes get made. So the mangaka and fans have more power.

I actually thought Cowboy Bebop wasn't that interesting. I don't remember much of it now but I think it was mostly episodic. Gundam series have more complex arc-based stories and are more political. For political space opera, Gundam 00 is pretty good. I also like Tytania this season which falls into this genre.

Speaking of animes, I thought Whedon's dollhouse idea was inspired by Darker Than Black. He's mentioned he likes animes so it's quite possible.
 
oh and Temis, you know what the great thing about anime series are?

Most anime series are planned to only last two seasons of 13 episodes, resulting in an actual plot-arc that feels more like a really long miniseries than "filler"

I saw that you largely felt the same way I did about BSG ultimately revealing a total lack of "Cylon Plan"

what many anime series do is...while they still have a few standalone episodes maybe to play with the concept....they've usually got an ending planned and "episode 26" is the magic number

thus, in the "20's", they'll actually start killing off major character characters, frequently resulting in the epic "kill'em all and let God sort 'em out!" Beneath the Planet of the Apes-style ending.

Some of the Gundam series or "Ghost in the Shell: the series" instead run for four seasons, for 52 episodes, but still, most anime series aren't open-ended by have an intentional ending in sight.

Or like "Death Note", which also ran four ~52 episodes
 
when is this schedule starting? I want to watch the Moonlight reruns!(I loved the show)

Temis, as V stated, I dont know if Gundam 00 would be a good idea for an anime newbie(though to be honest I havent seen any of the Gundams myself until 00 & I am enjoying it, but Im already familiar with a lot of anime's stylistic quirks.)
if you'd like to try out some anime sci-fi/fantasy Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Witch Hunter Robin, Hellsing, Death Note & Blood + are probaby some good bets for newcomers. These are specifically shows that takes themselves mostly seriously without any cuts into "super deformed" comedy, which can be a bit wtf? & a turn-off for someone who's never seen anime before. Otherwise I would have also added Trigun, Gurren Laggan & Fullmetal Alchemist as well.
 
Cowboy Bebop = like FireFly

Ghost in the Shell
= "24" meets "Blade Runner"

Hellsing = Alucard is the King of Vampires!

Integra Hellsing: "Alucard, what's the difference between these Artificial Vampires made by implanting computer chips into their bodies, and an Ancient Vampire like you?
[Alucard silently holds out his hand and telekinetically levitates an extracted computer chip into the palm of his hand, then lets it fall down]
Integra: "oh..."
[Alucard walks away by walking straight through a solid wall, magically phasing through it]


Death Note = boy finds magic notebook that can kill anyone whose name he writes in it. In the words of Tyler Durden "no one had the courage before to just...run with it"....he kills thousands of criminals and suspected criminals, becoming drunk on power. The media label him "Kira" (Japanese slurred version of English "Killer") and he sets out to make himself a Living God of a new world in which no one commits crime. He sees himself as a savior because he's "fixing a broken world". He's unstoppable; so long as you know someone's name you can kill them (and know what they look like; you have to be thinking of their face when you write their name; this is to avoid killing people that have the same name).....until the enigmatic super-detective known only as the letter "L" is called upon by InterPol to track Kira down..... L rapidly determines that Kira is real, that the wave of deaths were murders, and that Kira is in Japan. And so the chase is on; a game of cat-and-also-cat, with L and Kira trying to hunt each other down without knowing the other's name or face (without which, Kira cannot kill L ) and the first one who is revealed...dies. ( L is voiced by Alessandro Juliani of BSG)
 
Is Darker Than Black available for (US) domestic consumption?

The DVDs are available.

http://www.amazon.com/Darker-Than-B..._bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=dvd&qid=1231728921&sr=8-1

if you'd like to try out some anime sci-fi/fantasy Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Witch Hunter Robin, Hellsing, Death Note & Blood + are probaby some good bets for newcomers. These are specifically shows that takes themselves mostly seriously without any cuts into "super deformed" comedy, which can be a bit wtf? & a turn-off for someone who's never seen anime before. Otherwise I would have also added Trigun, Gurren Laggan & Fullmetal Alchemist as well.

I like:

Samurai Champloo
xxxHolic
X (the series)
Gankutsuou: The Count of Monte Carlo
Real Drive
Darker Than Black
Gundam 00 and Gundam Seed

I think most of them are available on netflix. Scifi really isn't my favorite anime genre and I tend to dislike the really male-oriented ones so my taste might be a little odd to most guys on this forum.

One of my favorites is Gintama. Though it's somewhat scifi, I wouldn't recommend it to any new anime person. It's really silly. :)
 
Whatever happened to the show (I forget its name) that was being developed for Scifi that involved a Mars colony fighting for freedom or something?
 
I think you mean Revolution and Warehouse 13

they're greenlit but apparently still in pre-production filming; no surprise there, they're following the schedule they announced

I predict failure, though

Revolution didn't sound too bad, but from the people that brought you Flash Gordon, I doubt it will be the potential next "Jericho" that it could have been
 
I think you mean Revolution and Warehouse 13

they're greenlit but apparently still in pre-production filming; no surprise there, they're following the schedule they announced

I predict failure, though

Revolution didn't sound too bad, but from the people that brought you Flash Gordon, I doubt it will be the potential next "Jericho" that it could have been

Jericho wasn't the Jericho it could have been! As for B5, mentioned by an earlier poster-you can get the seasons at Best Buy for 25$ - dirt cheap for hours of fun!
 
I watched two episodes of DS9 this week off of Spike. It was Tivoed... so there's a good possibility it was at 2 or 3 in the morning.

Yeah DS9 used to air at 2:00 with Voyager as its lead in at 1:00am. Starting this week Voyager has been moved to 3:00 and DS9 is not airing.
 
the best "starter for other non-anime scifi fans" is of course, Cowboy Bebop, because its essentially "Firefly: the Animated Series" (more or less)...I know Whedon is a big anime fan (the opening shot of River Tam curled up in a box is a shot-for-shot recreation of a scene from the series "Outlaw Star"

The Outlaw Star reveal of Melfina and the Firefly reveal of River Tam are similar but far, far from a "shot-for-shot recreation." I have never seen Whedon admit to ever having even seen Outlaw Star before creating Firefly, letting alone copying or making an homage to it.

If you've a source that confirms it please post, otherwise don't treat your speculation as fact.


I would agree Cowboy Bebop is one of the best introductions to anime you can give someone, specifically episodes 1 and 5.


Most anime series are planned to only last two seasons of 13 episodes, resulting in an actual plot-arc that feels more like a really long miniseries than "filler"

As far as I'm aware, I believe the more common "season" for Japanese anime is 26 episodes, with 13 being a more popular one-shot option (Hellsing). Some are divided into two 13 episode seasons, Gantz immediately comes to mind, but I don't think this is a standard/common practice. In the case of Big O, the second batch of 13 episodes is even considered its own series called Big O II. This is also the case for Genshiken and Genshiken II.

The fact is that anime isn't that different from other televised entertainment, there is a large variety in every aspect.

Some shows have planned endings (Code Geass, although I've heard the details had to change during production), while others continue on for as long as they can and make it up as they go (Naruto, which is a continuing manga that is produced concurrently... Which leads to "filler" when the anime catches up to the comic). Some are based upon manga/comics and thus are more consistent in ways (Beck: Mongolian Chop Squad) and others are more free to wander because otherwise there was no manga to base it upon (Cowboy Bebop) or completely pass a manga still in production (Full Metal Alchemist) and have a different ending.

I think it's an exaggeration to present anime as a seemingly superior medium (my apologies if this wasn't your intent). Since we are not native Japanese living in Japan we are not exposed to nearly as much anime as them (even to a watcher of fansubs), in theory only the best get licensed and released in America (this was more case in the past)... However, this has changed in recent years, arguably helping contribute to the current anime industry crashing in America by dilluting the niche market with titles that are arguably lacking in quality.
 
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