11th Doctor Casting announcment tommorow

[davejames]

Huh. I always figured he had to regenerate into a new form for it to be a classic regeneration. The writers might have cheated a little bit with that, but I never saw it as a full regeneration.

As for the Console Room, I'm fine with keeping the current design, but I wouldn't mind a slight color change. I am starting to tire of the green and brown a little bit.

I think a gray and steel version of that set would look pretty cool myself...

 

[Jax]

I think that most people understand that Tennants 2nd regeneration, was a regeneration, and only the fact he had the hand around was why his personality or exterior did not change, I think the episode strongly hinted that.

as for the Spock quote, this is actually quite important, the Doctor has a limited number of regenerations, and is coming towards the end. the 11th Doctor (Tenants 11th Doctor) is going to have a shorter run than the 9th. It is must distressing to think that he is using up regenerations so quickly.

As for marketing, its possible we are both right, David Tennant is still playing the 10th Doctor, and Matt Smith would count as the 11th new Doctor, only a regeneration has happened, and the numbering things to the confusion may not reflect that, Smith is the 11th guy to play a new Doctor no question, but he is the Doctor's 12 regeneration.

I wish a law was passed to stop SCI FI fans over thinking stuff, he is the 11th Doctor when Tennant leaves why because the people who run the show get the final call not us, DEAL WITH IT.

 

[wamdue]

Huh. I always figured he had to regenerate into a new form for it to be a classic regeneration. The writers might have cheated a little bit with that, but I never saw it as a full regeneration.

As for the Console Room, I'm fine with keeping the current design, but I wouldn't mind a slight color change. I am starting to tire of the green and brown a little bit.

I think a gray and steel version of that set would look pretty cool myself...

I dont think making it grey & steel counts as more than a small change, and im not keen on a totally steel look anyways, maybe add some blue but thats about it.

I wish a law was passed to stop SCI FI fans over thinking stuff, he is the 11th Doctor when Tennant leaves why because the people who run the show get the final call not us, DEAL WITH IT.

you realise if we did that, this forum & others like it would cease to exist?

also there is the whole freedom of speech argument, hell you dont even want us to THINK about it.

 

[davejames]

Clearly you weren't in fandom in 1996. The arguments over the interior of McGann's TARDIS caused all sorts of consternation.

I think I'm one of the few people in the world who liked that interior. I remember discussing it with someone a couple of years ago who claimed the series had always had brilliant interior sets... and got quite upset when I pointed out one of those sets was a loading bay/car park.

It's funny, before refamiliarizing myself with the classic series, I always just assumed the Tardis interior went through all KINDS of changes over the years. I thought the basic white one with the holes in the wall was just from the early years.

I was shocked to see the same basic design (except for a few small touches here and there) remained all the way to the end.

Seeing that, I can definitely understand now why the fans freaked out so much over the 1996 and 2005 versions.

 

[Jon1701]

As for marketing, its possible we are both right, David Tennant is still playing the 10th Doctor, and Matt Smith would count as the 11th new Doctor, only a regeneration has happened, and the numbering things to the confusion may not reflect that, Smith is the 11th guy to play a new Doctor no question, but he is the Doctor's 12 regeneration.

If he was losing a life anyway, why would he bother pissing about metacrisising (or whatever he was doing) into his hand. Why not just regenerate?

Makes no difference to him really.

 

[davejames]

If he was losing a life anyway, why would he bother pissing about metacrisising (or whatever he was doing) into his hand. Why not just regenerate?

Makes no difference to him really.

I guess he just saw a great, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to cheat the process (and not waste a precious, full regeneration), and went for it.

That and he really liked his current body.

 

[wamdue]

just found this

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/116294/Its-Doctor-Oooo.html

the new Doctor & Rose in Secret Diary of a CallGirl, im glad he wasn't a client, but Rose is in for a shock, when he tells him who he is.

 

[WillsBabe]

^Fab avatar.

I love the way that article refers to Billie as "Tardis sidekick." I love tabloid terminology.

 

[Jon1701]

If he was losing a life anyway, why would he bother pissing about metacrisising (or whatever he was doing) into his hand. Why not just regenerate?

Makes no difference to him really.

I guess he just saw a great, once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to cheat the process (and not waste a precious, full regeneration), and went for it.

That and he really liked his current body.

Exactly, if he did waste a renegeration (which I don't think he did), why all the faffing about?

 

[wamdue]

^Fab avatar.

thanks, figured I would play around with the image, see if I could make an avatar out of it, I think it turned out quite well.

 

[Skywalker]

I find it amusing that Matt Smith will be playing the Eleventh Doctor, and he's the eleventh Matt Smith listed on IMDb. Then again, I'm easily amused.

 

[Hermiod]

Wait ? When did they cast Philo as the Doctor ?

 

[Jax]

Am surprised the papers have been very kind to the new choice and all seem to be looking forward to the new Who in 2010. here here

 

[Starkers]

Well, I'm underwhelmed by the choice, but really there's nothing to speculate on given his lack of track record that I've seen.

Con: Too young. I'm traditionalist enough to think a Doctor should generally start out in his early 40s. Fine to vary around that, but this makes four in a row who've been 40 or younger - it felt like time for someone a bit older for a change. If only because there's plenty of actors I'd like to see in the role who'll probably be too old next time round now, whereas this chap could have been in the running any time in the next 20 years.
But... But Moffat was starting out from the same point, but was then won over by Matt Smith's audition, which has got to count for something. And he's the closest thing to a total unknown since Tom Baker, and that worked out well (yes, I know Tom had done Shakespeare and film roles, but he was probably the most unknown to the general public, the others all having had lead roles of some sort in TV or radio).
And that's really all you can say at this point. I guess I'll be in the 'Ok, hope you prove my gut feeling wrong' camp come 2010.

Have to say I agree pretty much 100% with the above, and I wonder if this isn't a similar situation to Dalton as Bond, Brocoli origianlly wanted Dalton when he was only about 22 but Tim basically said he was too young (and I think he was bang on then) and only took the role about 15 years later. Matt Smith could have been the 12th or 13th Doctor, whereas so many fine candidates are now out of the running for a future Doctor role. Like you say though, Moffat obviously sees the Doctor in him, we'll just how to see how it goes, that's all we can do. I've learnt my lesson over blindly hating people cast as iconic characters before the event over Daniel Craig (have I ever been so wrong?)

 

[Starkers]

And it wasn't the Beeb that made the choice, was it? It was Steven Moffat, aka the Great God of DW Fandom himself.

Although the one bit of Moffat's interview I found very interesting was the fact that of the list of actors the Beeb gave him he thought most were too young, so one has to wonder if there wasn't some direction from the Beeb to go young anyway...

Probably reading between lines that aren't there, but I wonder if Moffat has anywhere near the clout RTD had.

 

[Jim Steele]

Matt Smith could have been the 12th or 13th Doctor, whereas so many fine candidates are now out of the running for a future Doctor role.

I see what you're saying, but why should Moffat (or anyone else) give a monkey's?

There have probably been thousands of actors in the last 45 years who could have been amazing Doctors. Tom Baker was chosen over hundreds of others, many of whom could have been as good or, dare I say it, better. But worrying about that is like worrying that you've wasted a cancer curer every time you have a wank.

The powers that be know what they wanted, and Matt Smith delivered. He obviously delivered more than everyone else who auditioned. And that's another point... how do we know that, for example (the one I was rooting for) Paterson Joseph was ever in the running for the part? Did he audition? Was he invited? We don't know. Moffat obviously feels that the man he chose was the best they saw, and one thing Moffat has over the rest of us (despite being the multi-award winning television writer/showrunner that NONE of us are) is that he's actually seen the guy delivering his dialogue. Acting the part. By all accounts, blowing him away with his performance.

And, as others have said, Moffat chose this guy after claiming he'd want an older man for the part. If he convinced him, he's convinced me.

 

[JoeZhang]

Some fairly bizarre comments in this thread and indeed across the web.

"too emo" - since he's hasn't shoot a single line of dialogue yet..

"I've never heard of him or seen his acting" is connected to "I doubt he has the range to pull it off". huh?


I think he's fairly ugly but as for his abilities as the Doctor - who the fuck knows?

 

[Samurai8472]

The Doctor states quite clearly what happened; "I used the regeneration energy to HEAL myself..." That's all he does. He heals his tenth body with regen power, and dumps the rest into his hand. No actual regeneration process takes place.

That SAME regen energy then does the exact same thing to the hand- HEALS it, which creates a second Doctor 10.

 

[Sci]

And it wasn't the Beeb that made the choice, was it? It was Steven Moffat, aka the Great God of DW Fandom himself.

Although the one bit of Moffat's interview I found very interesting was the fact that of the list of actors the Beeb gave him he thought most were too young, so one has to wonder if there wasn't some direction from the Beeb to go young anyway...

Probably reading between lines that aren't there, but I wonder if Moffat has anywhere near the clout RTD had.

I rather imagine that Moffat's clout today is akin to what Davies's clout was when he was re-starting DW (though Davies's is probably larger today because of DW's success). Both had run several successful TV programs and mini-series prior to DW -- Coupling Press Gang, and Jekyll for Moffat, Queer As Folk, The Second Coming, and Casanova for Davies. And Moffat had been tapped by Steven Spielberg to write for the Tintin movies, which HAD to be a boost.

So I don't buy the idea that Moffat went young because the BBC pressured him to for a second. Sounds to me like he went young because he honestly thought Smith was gonna be good for the role.

I admit, I'm skeptical of a 26-year-old's ability to convey the idea that he's ancient. I mean, he's young enough that I could have gone to high school with him. But, let's give him a chance -- certainly Moffat's never gone wrong with DW yet, after all...

 

[JoeZhang]

So I don't buy the idea that Moffat went young because the BBC pressured him to for a second. Sounds to me like he went young because he honestly thought Smith was gonna be good for the role.

And he would have been significantly cheaper than any of the "name" actors who were mentioned.