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NFL Discussion - 2008-09 Playoffs

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ALL THE WAY!!!

WERE WACKO 4 FLACCO!!

I gots my purple lights up. :bolian:
 
Here we go Steelers, here we go!!!

The Pittsburgh defense has been incredible this season. The only problem is that they've often needed to be because the offense has been very erratic. I have no idea what to expect from them in their Divisional Round game, but they ought to be favored against whoever they play. I really hope they don't have another home letdown, because a rematch in the championship game with either the Ravens or Titans would be delicious. :evil:
 
Mike Martz is gone. On One hand I have faith in Singletary, but on the other, this is the 6th OC in 6 years. The team needs some kind of consistency to be a contender.

Martz likely would've left for a HC job either this season or next anyway, especially with all the HC positions available now. Best to let him go now and let Singletary bring in his own guy than than have a repeat of the Norv Turner incident, IMO.
 
Just saw on ESPN. The Broncos fired Shanahan!

No way! I did not expect that at all.

As we left the Denver-Buffalo game before Christmas, I asked my brother in law how short he thought the Mastermind's time in Denver was. I'm not really surprised, considering what the Broncos have accomplished playoff wise with quarterbacks named other than Elway.

Wonder what kind of comic the Denver paper will come up with for this. :lol:

I'm sure it will be genius, and as soon as I see it, I'll share it, you can count on that. ;)
 
Just saw on ESPN. The Broncos fired Shanahan!

Of all the coaching changes and other firings, this one suprised me the most. Yeah, the Broncos didn't live up to expectations, but it wasn't all Mike Shanahan's fault. Didn't they go through about a half dozen RBs? When the injury bug bites your team that bad, there's not a lot you can do.


As far as the NFL playoff structure goes- I have no problem with it. Unless you set it up so every conference team plays each other just once (thus eliminating not only division rivalries, but any chance for interconference play), what they do now is the best they can do. Yeah, some teams with better records will be left out, but that'll happen sometimes. It happens in baseball, it happens in hockey and if I actually gave a rat's ass about baskestball, I'm pretty sure it happens there too. Unlike MLB, at least the NFL has enough sense not to let a coin flip decide who get home field advantage in the event of a tie.
 
I'm still surprised the Jets kicked Mangini out. The Favre signing didn't work out completely, and they did blow a solid hold on making the playoffs. It couldn't help that they lost the last game to the Dolphins and Pennington. Even so, I saw more life and performance in the Jets this year, and it was only Mangini's third season. There had to be a problem behind the scenes. Had they Jets made the playoffs... would that really have been enough to keep Mangini around longer?
 
Just saw on ESPN. The Broncos fired Shanahan!

Of all the coaching changes and other firings, this one suprised me the most. Yeah, the Broncos didn't live up to expectations, but it wasn't all Mike Shanahan's fault.

Considering he was the person evaluating talent and making draft decisions, especially on the defensive side of the ball, there was a lot of blame there for the Mastermind.

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As I was at the gym last night flipping channels on my eliptical I came across the talking heads with the words at the bottoms simply reading: Shananan out in Denver.

I did a double take. What?

Granted he hasn't really had success since his back-to-back Superbowls but he has been largely adequate. Yes they fell apart their last 3 games not to unliked the Jets collapse but I still thought he was safe. Cutler as an up and comer just seems so obvious vs when ole Jake was there.

Someone is going to step into a good situation in Denver and in 2yrs or less look like a genius cause of what is in place. Get a stable and consistently healthy RB and the Broncos challenge next year I think.
 
Even the Cardinals may show they deserved to be there, even if they lose, if they put up a good fight.

Unless I badly miss my guess, the Cardinals are not going to "put up a good fight." They're going to win.

The Cards played the Giants tough ... but when they lost, the attitude changed entirely. They pretty much stopped giving a maximal effort about five seconds after it became apparent that they couldn't lose their division, but also couldn't grab one of the top two seeds. Their losses to Philadelphia, Minnesota and New England are essentially meaningless. I wouldn't show potential playoff foes a damned thing, either, once my place in the bracket was essentially set.

Atlanta's had a nice run. It likely ends Saturday.
 
It couldn't help that they lost the last game to the Dolphins and Pennington.

I've been a Jets fan for years—they're my number two behind Arizona—and yet I immensely enjoyed watching them go down in flames this year. Favre, for all his abilities, is one of the most overrated quarterbacks in history. You give other guys that Packers team he had in the mid-90's and they win two or three Super Bowls, not just one.

The Jets treated Chad Pennington, who busted his ass for them, quite shabbily, and the football gods were watching. Hopefully Favre now slinks away, his legacy forever tarnished by this and the bullshit he pulled in Green Bay ... and the Jets, a year older and wiser, acquire some more class and move forward.
 
I read this morning that Dolphins TE Anthony Fassano said Pennington "was signed on Wednesday. By Friday he was voted one of the team captains. What does that tell you?" not the most talented QB ever, but he's smart, loyal and works his butt off in preparation. A good guy who deserves a little sunshine.
 
It couldn't help that they lost the last game to the Dolphins and Pennington.

I've been a Jets fan for years—they're my number two behind Arizona—and yet I immensely enjoyed watching them go down in flames this year. Favre, for all his abilities, is one of the most overrated quarterbacks in history. You give other guys that Packers team he had in the mid-90's and they win two or three Super Bowls, not just one.

The Jets treated Chad Pennington, who busted his ass for them, quite shabbily, and the football gods were watching. Hopefully Favre now slinks away, his legacy forever tarnished by this and the bullshit he pulled in Green Bay ... and the Jets, a year older and wiser, acquire some more class and move forward.


Well, the Jets' owner Woody Johnson still wants Favre or as the NY Post tastefully put it in this banner headline: Woody For Brett!

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Not the most talented QB ever...

That's the conventional wisdom, anyway. The main knock on Pennington is his inability to throw the deep ball ... yet he somehow seems to manage it whenever called upon to do so.

I mentioned to a friend when the season began that I thought the Jets would have been better off keeping Pennington, and was nearly fitted for a straitjacket.

In addition, I'm not entirely sure the Ravens beat the Dolphins this weekend. Miami didn't go 11-5 beating the Sisters of the Poor: They've taken out the Patriots, Chargers and Jets, and were once 2-4, only to finish the season on a 9-1 run. I'm not taking the Dolphins in an upset, mind you ... I just wouldn't be stunned to see one.
 
I'm not really surprised, considering what the Broncos have accomplished playoff wise with quarterbacks named other than Elway.

These are the talking points that morons on talk radio spew out. One team wins the Super Bowl every year. That's one out of thirty-two. Firing a coach because he hasn't won a championship in 10 years, even if he's a perennial playoff contender, is the definition of short-sighted. There are teams that have never won a championship, and many (very good) coaches who have never won a championship.

7 playoff appearances in 14 years, and during the other 7 years it looks like the Broncos were in the playoff race. A .616 winning percentage. That is top-tier coaching, and it's impossible that Shanahan has been lucking out his entire tenure with Denver. He's doing at the least something right, and most likely many things right.

This is a terrible move by Denver, and some other lucky team is going to reap the rewards.
 
"Woody for Favre" - :guffaw:


This is a terrible move by Denver, and some other lucky team is going to reap the rewards.

I still think that if they were able to hire Romeo Crennel as the DC - a job he seems better suited for than head coach but who knows - that the Broncos would be back in the playoffs next season. It just seemed that their defense was their biggest obstacle this season. Cutler was up and down and the offense would drive Mother Teresa to drinking, but that defense had holes shot all through it.


In addition, I'm not entirely sure the Ravens beat the Dolphins this weekend. Miami didn't go 11-5 beating the Sisters of the Poor: They've taken out the Patriots, Chargers and Jets, and were once 2-4, only to finish the season on a 9-1 run. I'm not taking the Dolphins in an upset, mind you ... I just wouldn't be stunned to see one.
Definitely agreed. They have a sound defense, and their offense doesn't make very many mistakes at all. A win is a definite possibility. However, the way the Ravens' defense is playing right now and their offense for the most part these past few weeks... they really seem to be hitting their marks at the best possible time.

I'm actually thinking all the visiting teams win this weekend.
 
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