Did God have a choice in creating the Universe?
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That's assuming that "god" exists.
But if god does exist, then I suppose god does have free-choice/will (having invented it, after all) and did have the conscious decision to create the universe.
Otherwise, if destiny controlled god's action, then god is destiny's bitch. And who would want somebody's bitch for a god?
But if god does exist, then I suppose god does have free-choice/will (having invented it, after all) and did have the conscious decision to create the universe.
Otherwise, if destiny controlled god's action, then god is destiny's bitch. And who would want somebody's bitch for a god?
Man, number two on your "how to relate to" page is hilarious. I'll just wander around the city looking for someone who displays Asperger's characteristics so I can try to make a friend with Aspergers. Either I will, or someone will think I'm a loony as fuck stalker and report me to the cops. 
Anyway...on topic...making mention of "if God exists" is a silly thing to say, because obviously that's the conceit of the question.
Anyway...on topic...making mention of "if God exists" is a silly thing to say, because obviously that's the conceit of the question.
What if it was a team of gods that made the universe? Maybe most of them were in favour of it and a few didn't want to but were overruled by a majority vote. Perhaps the minority didn't think it was right to create sentient beings with no purpose so they determined to stop project universe. They worked in secret to disable the project; every day the other gods would find new problems in the coding and and whole project began to go over the allotted budget.
Eventually they found out what was going on by spying on everybody's email and once the minority were found out they were all taken off the project and forced to work on New Coke instead. The minority were angry about this, and when they found out that the universe was nearly complete they decided the only course of action was to storm the project building and blow it up. They made a valiant effort, many gods died in the ensuing gunfight, but they were captured and forced to watch as the universe was activated right in front of them. Then the minority gods were fired because New Coke turned out to be crap.
But I guess what I'm really getting at here is that I do not have an answer to the original question.
Eventually they found out what was going on by spying on everybody's email and once the minority were found out they were all taken off the project and forced to work on New Coke instead. The minority were angry about this, and when they found out that the universe was nearly complete they decided the only course of action was to storm the project building and blow it up. They made a valiant effort, many gods died in the ensuing gunfight, but they were captured and forced to watch as the universe was activated right in front of them. Then the minority gods were fired because New Coke turned out to be crap.
But I guess what I'm really getting at here is that I do not have an answer to the original question.
I think if God did create the Universe he onlu deserved a C for doing so as some of his design were less than perfect especially some of those of living creatures.
I like the theory presented in Scott Adams' "God's Debris."
The universe is made up of the debris from when God committed suicide.
The universe is made up of the debris from when God committed suicide.
Boredom. There was nothing good on TV so she created a universe that could eventually develop it's own entertainment, to entertain her in return.
She wasn't thrilled with Dharma & Greg, but she's loving the last season of ER.
This topic of discussion reminds me of Isaac Asimov's "The Last Question". 
How does God commit suicide?
If you accept that he exists as a true fundamental: infinite and eternal, then it is impossible for him to not exist. So the possibility of suicide is as impossible as him not existing in the first place.
If God has always existed, then he must be well and truely bored by now: There's nothing new to learn or surprise him. He's like Quinn, a tired immortal; a mind imprisoned and tortured by it's own immortality.
So perhaps reality is God's attempt at the next best thing: to split his mind up into a zillion pieces, each small and insignificant enough to not suffer its existence as greatly as the unified whole... and those pieces are life: the stars, the planets, the atoms, the minds of mortals.
The human knee is a particularly poor design, as I'm sure many around here will attest to.
Not only does this have my vote, but it would explain alot of the shit I've seen in my life.
TheLonelySquire
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God chose to create the universe and to give us free will. He's also provided a way for us to have everlasting life. Seems like a pretty good deal for those that take him up on it. It does require is to live by a moral standard while we are here however. But to answer the OP, God could have vreated the universe in any way he wanted. Most of them we cannot even begin to understand.
Well then who created God?
And if God doesn't need a creator, why would the Universe need one either?
