Yes, I believe what the Bible teaches about Jesus - his virgin birth, his diety, his life, his death, his resurrection. All of it.
Me too
do you beleve the story of the birth of christ
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Without question or reservation, both the person and the birth. Some of the details can be sketchy, such as the time of His birth, whether there was an actual "star", and so on. However, yes I do believe in both.i beleve he was real what do you all think?
I do, too. Every word of it.Me tooYes, I believe what the Bible teaches about Jesus - his virgin birth, his diety, his life, his death, his resurrection. All of it.
At best we have references in the Koran (Qur'an, not sure which is proper) of Jesus as a prophet.
As far as official papers, Roman record keeping was not very good. It was better than cave paintings and getting progressively better with each year/decade/century, but it still sucked for the most part. It's my understanding that there's only a handful of documents about Julius Caesar, arguably Rome's greatest leader. If they didn't take the time to detail every aspect of Caesar's life, why would the care about a Jewish rebel.
All that said, I believe in the Bibles account for Jesus' birth.
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What would Jesus do? He'd be nice to his fellow Posters. And not get any Warnings.
What would Jesus do? He'd be nice to his fellow Posters. And not get any Warnings.
Well, if we're gonna go with a Trekbbs metaphor....
He'd get permabanned, but would come back 3 days later.
But then disappear forever in a burst of light.
I love that Avatar and Location, by the way.
I love that Avatar and Location, by the way.
Considering the bible was EDITED by males some three centuries after the supposed events of the New Testament, and that the Apocrypha contains just as many equally credible (or not) books which could have been included, the bible is a rather indiscriminate work with a number of inconsistencies between books.
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--Ted
I believe everything about Jesus' birth. I know it wasnt on 25 Dec, but everything else I believe.
And every Christian knows this to some extent.
Yes, yes I do.
Ah, I was primarily thinking about Josephus. I hadn't realized that he'd written about Jesus so long after he was executed. Thanks for the correction.
It's not the time of Josephus' writings that are the problem. The problem is that the few sentences refering to Jesus are obvious forgeries crudely inserted into a random spot in his book -- forgeries that were added probably hundreds of years after Jesus' death. There's lots of info online about this, I won't repeat it here.
No, you're thinking of Brian.
i beleve he was real what do you all think?
Without question or reservation, both the person and the birth. Some of the details can be sketchy, such as the time of His birth, whether there was an actual "star", and so on. However, yes I do believe in both.
"Sketchy" for sure. How sketchy? How hot is the sun? How deep is the ocean?
Perhaps by "sketchy" you mean "without a single shred of verifiable evidence"?
No--we know that Brian's father was a Roman soldier: the centurion Naughtius Maximus, of the 6th Legion (Legio VI Ferrata).
Frank, the Historian Who Wasn't A. J. P. Taylor At All, was planning a book on the subject before his untimely death during the making of Monty Python and the Holy Grail.
This is such an uninformed idea. Or I should "unformed." Thank FSM no one other than creation scientists believes this or we would still be living in caves. Proving a negative is impossible, of course, and it's such a transparently silly thing to try. God lives in my shed. He's invisible, and he loves to listen to the Coasters. Do you have a "burden of proof" to show that I'm wrong? According to your reasoning, all the thinking people in the world who care about these things should have to debunk my religion, and until they do I'm completely rational when I say "He Is Real and he knows all the words to "Searchin'"
Isaac Asimov once said "I don't have the evidence to prove that God doesn't exist, but I so strongly suspect he doesn't that I don't want to waste my time." This perfectly sums up it up.
"What if"?
How much more impossible can it get?!? Virgin birth? Rising from the dead? Raising the dead? Feeding the multitudes? Ascending straight into Heaven? Is there any way it could be more impossible? I'd be interested in hearing how! Inconceivable!
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