I didn't say they should be. My point is that the MACO's crimes, Borg issue aside, are enough by themselves to ensure a lifetime in prison.
Id imagine Sedin would meet the same fate had she been rescued and brought before the Caeliar Quorum.
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I didn't say they should be. My point is that the MACO's crimes, Borg issue aside, are enough by themselves to ensure a lifetime in prison.
Id imagine Sedin would meet the same fate had she been rescued and brought before the Caeliar Quorum.
Yes, but if you're going to go that way, since the remaining Caeliar didn't know who they were, what they were, just floating brain waves or whatever, how could she conscientiously retain and enact such a plan? And with that level of... irrational thought, I'd almost suspect the ensuing slavery wasn't part of the plan, all that there was was that hunger to find someone better than the Caeliar- so thats what the Borg did...
I'm not saying she's totally innocent- but I don't think the MACOs are either.
You're forgetting that the forced consolidation of a third Caeliar had revived Sedin's memory. When she formulated the plan, she knew who she was again.
Obviously she became so fixated on that plan that she was capable of enacting it even after many other aspects of her personality had degraded.
Did you read my excerpt? She specifically planned, whilst fully cognizant, to enslave the Humans.
Neither one is fully innocent, obviously. But Sedin is directly responsible for the creation of the Borg.
Look at it this way:
British Prime Minister David Lloyd George was not responsible for the Holocaust. He was, however, responsible for enacting such harsh terms of surrender upon the German Empire that the new Weimar Republic was unable to grow into a functional liberal democracy, enabling the rise of Adolf Hitler. Hitler is responsible for the Holocaust. But Lloyd George is responsible for putting Hitler in the position where he could enact that choice.
Yes, I read it. But since so many days passed while the surviving humans were walking, since by the time they got back there seemed to be so little of her left I was under the impression that she had faded again- to a ghost as the novel put it.
(I don't currently have LS in my possession, I must procure a new copy).
Even though that was her plan for quite a while... the description of the event as I recall it (and I'd have to reread it, which I can't) it seemed almost like she was gone, and that it was like a program running...
But I'll need to reread it for sure (which may take a while)... I guess my problem is mostly how disgusted I was with the MACOs and how so many millions of Caeliar died after to protect them...
Of course Lloyd George was partily responsible for how Germany was handelled after the First World War, but last time I checked, it was the Versile treaty AND then the Stock Market crash that caused the events that lead to the rise of Fashism in post War Germany, plus a wholely inefficent League of Nations which Woodrow Wilson (who conseaved the idea) could not even convince his own country to join, resulting in when Hitler was in power and war was brewing in Europe again, England, America and the world in general just watched - like we always seem to do!
So yes, Lloyd George may be partily indirectly responsible for the millions of Jews, Homosexuals and Disabaled people killed in the Holocaust, but so was America and the World in general!!!!!
Indeed.
It's also important to note what the Romulans--both states--did.
It's been established throughout the series that the Romulans are more than willing to develop and deploy any manner of advanced military and related technologies, from warp drives powered by quantum singularities to cloaking devices to programmable plasma torpedoes. If we go by the Rihannsu novels, which seem to be mostly canonical in the Treklitverse, the Romulans of the 23rd century were also able to trigger devastating ion storms at will and make stars hyperflare with diaastrous results for their associated worlds.
What have the Romulans done with these technologies? They haven't set them aside, rejecting them as too powerful or too destabilizing. Rather, they've been quite ready to use them, rejecting their use only on moral grounds. In The Empty Chair, we saw the sensible majority of the Rihannsu rejecting the Praetorate's plan to make Sol hyperflare. In Nemesis we saw Donatra decide that Shinzon's plan to use thalaron weapons agaisnt Earth was a crime.
What would the Romulans do when faced with a massive Borg armada intent on obliterating their entire civilization and all their worlds? They wouldn't be inclined towards mercy, or timourous behaviour. The Romulans would set upon the Borg with a frenzy, using every technology at their disposal. This includes the thalaron weapons that Picard ultimately decided not to build.I doubt that the Romulans wouldn't be able to install thalaron weapons on as many of their ships as possible, seeing as how Picard was able to imagine building one with only some modifications to his ship's existing systems and the thalaron weapons are of Romulan design.
And what happened? Destiny did not end with one or both of the Romulan state claiming victory over the vanquished Borg. The Romulans' use of thalaron weapons may have limiting the extent of the Borg offensive and left the Romulan states better off than the Federation or the Klingon Empire, but from what we can tell the Romulans were just as threatened as the rest of the Alpha and Beta Quadrants.
I read Picard's order as a last desperate effort to try to save known space from the Borg. If it came down to a conflict between the ad hoc squadron and the Borg, Enterprise might well have inflictedsignificant casualties on the Borg before it was destroyed. It still wouldn't be enough to save known space. As a character (Dax or Hernandez) noted, using brute force to overcome the Borg never worked and wouldn't work agaisnt such novels--they had to be more subtle. Fortunately for us all, the Caeliar were capable of just that sort of subtlety.
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