Orci Interview Re: Trek XI
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CaptainHawk1
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Great Interview.
Now, can the rest of the nay-sayers calm the fuck down after that, already?
-Shawn
My only point to "belabor" is that Orci's filmwriting credits are The Island, The Legend of Zorro, and Transformers. If someone would like to explain to me what was entertaining or intelligent about any of those flicks, I'll be happy to listen.
I somewhat agree.
I thought The Island and Transformers was entertaining but not intelligent.
Unfortunately, Star Trek needs to be both.
That should be "four lights instead of five."
This guy's lack of knowledge of Star Trek's basic essentials is disturbing.
Assuming he is referencing Chain Of Command then I wouldn't be so bitchy. True he stuffed up the number of lights, but he was able to reference a one-off TNG episode(s) in proper context. I think this at least shows that he has a good awareness of Trek and specific episodes - isn't this a good thing? The fact that he got the number of lights wrong doesn't really matter. It's not as if he implied Kirk can drive stick shift.....Oh.
Hardly an "essential" t0 know it was f0ur instead of five, im0.
Frankly I am impressed with the level 0f b0ther they went t0 in getting kn0wn facts in the 0ld Timeline c0rrect just t0 then bl0w it all away with a re-boot.
They c0uld have simply reb00ted with an 0ld fans be dammed attitude. I am thankful f0r the c0nsiderati0ns I have apparently received.
Frankly I am impressed with the level 0f b0ther they went t0 in getting kn0wn facts in the 0ld Timeline c0rrect just t0 then bl0w it all away with a re-boot.
They c0uld have simply reb00ted with an 0ld fans be dammed attitude. I am thankful f0r the c0nsiderati0ns I have apparently received.
The Island: Awesome frenetic action and a view of a dire
world through the untainted eyes of clone children, who
we get to watch grow up and realize how harsh the real
world has become. Showing that once again sacrificing
our Humanity can have sad consequences.
The Legend of Zorro: Simple family fun.
Had basic family moral tale and some fun action sequences.
Nothing special, but not a bad outing.
Transformers: Over the top special effects and action
sequences are always fun. But with a good narrative
about Humanity and that there is hope for us to improve
ourselves as shown by the heroics of the main characters
aided by the Autobots.
Ahh... I love choosing to enjoy my entertainment.
Hardly an "essential" t0 kn0w it was f0ur instead of five, im0.
Frankly I am impressed with the level 0f b0ther they went t0 in getting kn0wn facts in the 0ld Timeline c0rrect just t0 then bl0w it all away with a re-b00t.
They c0uld have simply reb00ted with an 0ld fans be dammed attitude. I am thankful f0r the c0nsiderati0ns I have apparently received.
FIXED (you skipped some 0s and may anger the fans
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See h0w freaking easy it is, I pr00fread it twice and still missed 0ne. Imagine sc0uring hundreds 0f epis0des and 10 movies, s0methings g0nna get missed.First order of the day: Box Office Success.
Remember, Spock's Brain wasn't Shakespeare either.
Not if you are a pure, true fan.
They have all the info, can recall anything at will and make no mistakes whatsoever.
And once again that's a matter of opinion. People just choose not too see it through the 'plosions.
Not if you are a pure, true fan.
They have all the info, can recall anything at will and make no mistakes whatsoever.
Then I wish they'd make some Trek. It would be... interesting to see how well their work would hold up under the Trekkerscope, for a change.
Well, two of those were directed by shameless hack Michael Bay, who you can count on to make dumb films regardless of who the writer is.
Zorro I know nothing about.
I don't think you can always judge someone by their past works if they've never done anything similar to their current project. I mean, Peter Jackson directed cheesy horror films, who knew he would handle epic so well? Perhaps the source material elevated the artist, but there's no reason that couldn't happen here too.
Transformers wasn't particular intelligent but I watched it on Imax and it was what I paid for - big robots knocking the shit out of each other - it's wasn't Chekhov but then I wasn't looking for that when I went in. The other two films you mention were awful.
trekkerguy said:
The Island: Awesome frenetic action and a view of a dire
world through the untainted eyes of clone children, who
we get to watch grow up and realize how harsh the real
world has become. Showing that once again sacrificing
our Humanity can have sad consequences.
The Legend of Zorro: Simple family fun.
Had basic family moral tale and some fun action sequences.
Nothing special, but not a bad outing.
Transformers: Over the top special effects and action
sequences are always fun. But with a good narrative
about Humanity and that there is hope for us to improve
ourselves as shown by the heroics of the main characters
aided by the Autobots.
Ahh... I love choosing to enjoy my entertainment.
Ahh... I love when someone says something silly and thinks it sounds superior. I love enjoying my entertainment too - when it's actually entertaining. I saw The Island on a date, and I saw The Legend of Zorro because I've seen every Zorro picture ever made. They are both lackluster, by the numbers stories with no originality and no memorable characters.
But you couldn't pay me to see a movie based on a bunch of boy's dolls.
Peter Jackson had directed "Heavenly Creatures", a widely critically acclaimed film, and the primary reason he was able to successfully pitch LotR to New Line.
Besides, we're not talking about a director here, but a writer. Are you telling me I can't judge Stephen King's new books by the other material he's written?
trekkerguy said:
The Island: Awesome frenetic action and a view of a dire
world through the untainted eyes of clone children, who
we get to watch grow up and realize how harsh the real
world has become. Showing that once again sacrificing
our Humanity can have sad consequences.
The Legend of Zorro: Simple family fun.
Had basic family moral tale and some fun action sequences.
Nothing special, but not a bad outing.
Transformers: Over the top special effects and action
sequences are always fun. But with a good narrative
about Humanity and that there is hope for us to improve
ourselves as shown by the heroics of the main characters
aided by the Autobots.
Ahh... I love choosing to enjoy my entertainment.
Ahh... I love when someone says something silly and thinks it sounds superior. I love enjoying my entertainment too - when it's actually entertaining. I saw The Island on a date, and I saw The Legend of Zorro because I've seen every Zorro picture ever made. They are both lackluster, by the numbers stories with no originality and no memorable characters.
But you couldn't pay me to see a movie based on a bunch of boy's dolls.
I don't think it sounds superior. I just see no reason to pick movies down
to a point I don't enjoy them like it seems every does anymore.
I see very little in those movies that was't entertaining so your point
doesn't really go anywhere with me. It's all opinions. What you think is
the worst movie ever could in fact be the best movie ever to someone
else, what I think is a great movie you find to be crap.
In the end most of these points in these threads really don't matter cause
rarely are you going to find two of us with the same tastes for the same
reasons. What I wanted to show is that your reasons for not appreciating
the writers is the same reasons I infact do appreciate them.
All of what you stated about the films, is opinion not fact.
Of course it's opinion. Of course opinions will differ. I never claimed any of my opinions to be fact. Neither did I say that you enjoying movies uncritically was in any way bad. Yet you have twice implied it was in some way bad to enjoy examining movies - that's what sounded condescending. But I appreciate that this was not your intention.
