NCAA Football 2008 Discussion - It All Starts Here.
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Edit: whatever resource I was using for schedule strength is eluding me an dI can't seem to find it. So I can't speak to comparing it.
It's not that open & shut case some are making it out to be. Me? Personally, I'm intrigued by Boise St. and if it were up to me, I'd be inclined to take them, just to see how they'd do against the best team they've probably ever faced. However, the bowl is a business, so.....
If Boist St's schedule is that much stronger, then perhaps htey did get robbed here. Sorry about the confusion
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Won't Florida likewise have the same amount of time to heal and plan? Meyer is no slouch for game preparation and trickiness, so as much as the Sooners may gain from the time beforehand, Florida will also benefit from that time.
Oklahoma has yet to play a team with a defense as good as the Gators. Then again, Florida has yet to face an offense this diverse and powerful. Much is going to depend on how healthy Demarco Murray and Percy Harvin are at game time. Right now, Harvin's injury looks to be the more serious, and as deep as the Gators may be, they will miss Harvin's big game play ability.
Harvin's injury is part of the reason I'm picking the Sooners.
An understandable reason, because Harvin is an incredible talent. But the Gators are VERY deep with Demps and Moody coming right bhind him. The gist of it is that neither team has faced another that's as complete as hte other. In the end I think we have a potential for an battle for the ages.
No comparison in schedule strength: Ohio State's is eighth, BSU's 79th.
That, however, should come into play much more when teams have the same number of losses, or even a one-loss differential. Ohio State, on the other hand, lost to Penn State and got effortlessly bitch-slapped at USC. They're a two-loss squad acing out a team that was the only one to win at Oregon, an extremely impressive feat ... that tried to do some nice out-of-conference scheduling with Southern Mississippi and Bowling Green, both solid mid-majors ... that utterly crushed a Fresno State squad that many had picked as a BCS buster this year ... that is simply a more interesting and worthy choice than the customarily-disappointing Buckeyes.
No one's saying Ohio State doesn't deserve their bid; they've got a fine team—one that rebounded nicely after the debacle in California. They just don't deserve an at-large over Boise State.
The real crime is the fact that Virginia Tech goes to the Orange Bowl, whilst Boise is cutting Poinsettias.
On the other hand, BSU arguably gets a better opponent than Virginia Tech or Cincinnati—and probably as good as Ohio State—in Texas Christian.
Um ... no. Oklahoma is used to overwhelming teams that can't match them for talent. Even Texas couldn't do so, yet the Longhorns managed a victory. There's a hint of the bully about OU. I'm going to enjoy watching them match up with a team they can't simply overwhelm. The last time it happened, they flinched.
Florida, on the other hand, has been through the SEC wars. That's better preparation for a national championship game than even the Big 12 this year, because they don't really play superlative defense west of the Mississippi and east of the Rockies.
If both bring their "A" game, Oklahoma will spend a quarter going, "Holy shit, these guys are fast." UF will get after Bradford like no one else did ... and they've seen nothing like Tim Tebow.
Yeah, I'm with Neroon: That's a pretty good reason.
If Harvin is still out, the equation changes. Then you've got to like a game that could go either way.
The Gators have seen nothing like Bradford. People refuse to acknowledge just how good this kid is. He's every bit the quarterback Tebow is. I can hear you screaming in protest, but he is. I'm not picking OU by several touchdowns--only by one. Especially with a Harvin free Florida.
So, Michigan State is playing a January 1st bowl, and Michigan wasn't even close to being bowl eligible. This is what it must've felt like to be a MSU fan all those years. 
Central is back in the Motor City, extremely luckily considering they lost to Eastern after their Ball State loss.
I'm gonna pick the Gators, and Bradford throws 2-3 picks. I'm just just trying to save his NFL career.
-nobody
Central is back in the Motor City, extremely luckily considering they lost to Eastern after their Ball State loss.
I'm gonna pick the Gators, and Bradford throws 2-3 picks. I'm just just trying to save his NFL career.
-nobody
The Gators have played against Matthew Stafford of Georgia, acknowledged by some NFL analysts as the likely top choice in the 2009 draft, so ... yeah, they have.
Not me. He's excellent, and may well be this year's Heisman winner—though I myself would still vote for Tebow.
No need to scream when the facts win the day.
He's a much better pro prospect at the position, granted ... but as a college quarterback, which is what we're discussing, where the "men among boys" factor still plays an enormous role, Tebow has the definite edge, in that he's more multifaceted at this level of the game—an underrated passer with the running ability of a fullback, and a gifted option QB, to boot. He's simply more a threat than Bradford right now, by virtue of the complete package.
Bradford may well be a fine pro quarterback someday. Tebow will likely be a great tight end or even fullback ... and one of those guys who occasionally throws a 35-yard option pass and hits his target on the hands.
No one's saying you're crazy. You're just being called on the "Oklahoma is a better team" comment you made.
My prediction for the BCS National championship.
Florida 45 OU 27
I'll be funny if Stoops lose another BCS title game. He'll be remembered by his critics as the coach who choked repeatedly on the big stage instead a brilliant manager who turned around an Oklahoma program that was in trouble.
Florida 45 OU 27
I'll be funny if Stoops lose another BCS title game. He'll be remembered by his critics as the coach who choked repeatedly on the big stage instead a brilliant manager who turned around an Oklahoma program that was in trouble.
Well, UF did lay 31 on an excellent Alabama defense. There's really no reason to think the Gators won't be able to tack a couple of touchdowns onto that, when OU's D isn't even in 'Bama's league.
I think the game is really going to come down to Florida's defense vs. Oklahoma's offense. There's not much doubt that Tebow will throw/run/smash through Oklahoma's defense. But if OU can control the game on the ground and run down the clock while still scoring, they can limit the number of opportunities for Tebow to score. It's really the only way to defeat Florida.
OU can do that.
My Georgia Bulldogs are playing the Michigan State Spartans in the Capital One Bowl on New Year's Day. Any predictions on this non-BCS bowl game?
Here is the breakdown of coachs poll:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2008-12-08-final-coaches-ballots_N.htm
As expected quite a bit of bias based on which conference/region they are from. For the most part coches supported teams from their own conference, though 2 of lowest ranking Texas got where from big-12 coaches (I guess they wanted to make sure Oklahoma gets in). I am not sure what Schellenberger has against USC, I think last year he had them at #12.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/2008-12-08-final-coaches-ballots_N.htm
As expected quite a bit of bias based on which conference/region they are from. For the most part coches supported teams from their own conference, though 2 of lowest ranking Texas got where from big-12 coaches (I guess they wanted to make sure Oklahoma gets in). I am not sure what Schellenberger has against USC, I think last year he had them at #12.
Except this year I think the ACC was something like 6-1 against the SEC.
I believe the ACC was 6-4 against the SEC.
